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      08-04-2014, 10:44 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by tooch View Post
What did he do wrong?, And how could he have saved that?
It appears to me that the start of the problem was giving too much throttle at the corner exit (where he was already at the traction limit) creating on oversteer condition - you can hear him get on the throttle more right before he gets to the brick curb apron, and then him let off after he starts to slide. At the very instant you feel the start of the slide you have to very quickly react with opposite lock to counter the slide (ie: quickly turning the steering wheel more to the left in this case so that the angle of your front wheels matches the angle of the slide, it's just something you have to feel) and modulate the throttle gently if needed - that's how he could have saved it, but it doesn't appear that he did this enough - you can see his front wheels are not turned very much and they were very slow even getting to the angle he did. By then he is already headed for the wall instead of down the track on the slip angle he would have been on if he reacted quickly. And secondarily lifting off the throttle too much doesn't help either because the weight shifts to the front and the rear loses even more traction - might have contributed some in this case. This all requires a very quick response (watch how quick Formula 1 drivers do it - so fast you hardly recognize it!) and if not, you're done. Doing what is mentioned above would give you a very high potential of a successful recovery, or at least mitigate enough that you might not hit a wall/rail. Hard to find a reason this technique wouldn't have worked here...

Note that the above procedure is just to neutralize the initial slide so, even if he did do the above, he still would have had to recover the second half of the slide as the car begins moving the opposite direction and straighten the car back out to normal (by steering back to the right and steady throttle).

This is a very common beginner mistake I've seen as an instructor many times, especially in higher HP cars with traction control off - be careful out there!
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