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Originally Posted by CollinsE90
Just give up man. You haven't posted one thing to back your opinion other than guns were built to kill living things--which you misconstrue as other people, which I'd love to see evidence of. They were designed for hunting, and fighting wars--JUST like the weapons that preceded guns, that are commercially available to anyone over 16. I for one CAN provide evidence that swords, ax's, and bats(clubs) were used in battles to kill other humans. Yet those things are just as easily bought, even by CONVICTED murders. You completely ignore the argument by dwelling on sarcasm, rather than admit I'm right. Are swords not just as dangerous in the correct hands?
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What's up with people like you coming on forums claiming victory when your entire posts are absent of any real content. Big deal, you post someone else's data. And? Wow you make an adolescent comparison between guns and a lumber tool. You call that good work?
You will not win one argument pertaining to guns if all you have is to segue into other discussions comparing objects that can also be used to kill people if the person doing the killing really has a violent nature. This position is one of the dumbest and hollowest pro-gun arguments that always come up. If you look at the design and functionality of a firearm, like the one's we see daily used to kill other humans, you wouldn't be desperately trying to move the focus to firearms that are not of topic like the ones you mentioned. No one is trying to ban bb-guns, or freakin' muskets, for crying out-loud. Stay focused. Besides, hunting and wars are not of topic which you are having great difficultly staying on. We are talking about a legally license individual arming himself and flipping out on a mass of people. That's the topic. Not ancient wars. Not duck hunting. Not hammers or nail-guns. Get with it or go somewhere else to play.
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Murders use guns because they are the easiest to get the job done, take them off the planet, they'll use the next best thing. And then we'll be arguing sword laws. Outlaw them, and they will just order them from 1000 different black market connections, and ONLY criminals will have them. You say guns are bad, but you won't look past what you want to happen, and see what would happen if your wish was granted. You'd have the SAME amount of criminals, SAME amount of guns in the wrong hands, and ZERO guns in anyone else's hands other than law officials, which we all know are omnipotent and can be everywhere at once.
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Your first sentences has zero angles to reply to. Guns are used in acts of violence. That's the tool of choice in violent crimes in just about every case in which a gun is employed. It is universally understood that the functionality of a gun is to maim or kill. Even if you're shooting at a damn target or watermelon, who is the shooter fantasizing about hitting??? Where I'm from, hunting is only a few weeks long. The rest of the year guns are used to settle disputes, rob and intimidate citizens. Get out of your utopia. I cannot begin to address your hypotheticals. They don't exist. Your reasoning is just below what most adults would entertain in a discussion like this. None of the above addresses the topic of guns and violence. You're just downplaying gun violence by saying another tool will replace it in a violent society. That is not a solution by any stretch of the imagination. That is an opinion from a jaded gun lover who wants to convince us all that there is no problem.