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      07-23-2012, 09:53 AM   #133
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Originally Posted by 48Laws View Post
Whether there is one officer or 300, they are a person designated to protect the public. Their mission is the same. To protect the public as a whole. One or 300 cops working to protect me doesn't change the mission.

How are helicopters, vantage points, hundreds of armed, al beit lower caliber weapons, officers not an advantage? You see, terrorism, and that was terrorism, is designed to cause confusion. But the confusion that occurred that day wasn't a disadvantage to an entire LAPD force. It took time for them to harness their talent.

Listen, MPOWER specifically said "similar firepower" to which you replied the NHSO was a good example. It is not. 9mm hand guns =/= 7.62mm assault rifles.

What good does a helicopter do besides let you know where they are? Are you going to go all Grand Theft Auto and crash the helicopter into them? You also don't understand how underpowered the police were or the basics of the shootout. The gunmen were standing in front of the bank while most of the police were over 30 feet away. Once the shooting started they retreated into the parking lot across the street for cover since their squad cars offered zero protection. A 9mm pistol isn't the most accurate weapon past 30 feet, especially when you have to expose yourself to fully automatic fire in order to shoot back.

The gunmen also had the advantage of force multiplication. This documentary I saw said they fired around 1,300 rounds during the time of the shootout, which equals a round every 2 seconds. With their drum rounds one gunman could give covering fire and keep the police pinned down while the other reloaded and vice versa. Effectively they created a non stop barrage of bullets which kept the police pinned down. Even if you have hundreds of officers none of them are going to be stupid enough to expose themselves in order to shoot back. Special Forces apply this same tactic of firing non stop in order to give the illusion that they are a much larger group then they actually are.

And once SWAT arrived with their AR-15's the firefight was over in a matter of minutes. If every officer had been armed in such a way, most likely, the fight wouldn't have lasted more than 5.
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