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Originally Posted by Wall$treet
Nothing else to add if you do not understand the relationship of torque and horsepower and which one determines performance than nothing to argue. The e90 m3 does 0-60 in 4.1 seconds. Quarter mile in 12.3. And it has no torque. So how can you say torque is what matters. Even less important around a track. Torque means you can stay in higher gears more often to get good output. Low torque/high hp means you have to actively stay in lower gears/high revs to get the same good output. Both methods are fine but different strategies.
Back to the example of a 535d. 450 lb feet of torque but 272 hp and does not break 6 seconds in sprint to sixty. Now if torque is what mattered how would this be?
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You understand you're exactly proving my point? You just listed sprints and 1/4 mile times...exactly where HP matters more than TQ does.
You idiots are full of fail. I completely understand the relationship b/w TQ and HP (I track at Limerock every year and I'm an engineer). So please stop embarrassing yourselves.
I never said HP wasn't important, I said TQ should be relative to the power output. The only reason the e90 m3 held well around the track is it high revving limiter. Meanwhile, when I threw a chip in my 335i I destroyed M3's @ Limerock (with less power but way more torque).
Again, I mentioned the CSL because that's what I think a true M3 should be aka a lightweight monster with ample power and RELATIVE torque. Thus why it devours a higher powered e90 M3 around a ring.
If you're never heard the following, just give up now:
"Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races." Enzo Ferrari