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      11-18-2012, 02:32 AM   #1
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F10 M5 (tune) Vs F12 M6 (stock) - Gthaus

Found this on youtube don't know why they haven't posted it yet.
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      11-18-2012, 11:13 AM   #2
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Is that car half brown and half white
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      11-18-2012, 04:24 PM   #3
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M6 cab is 200 pounds heavier then m5f10
Even with out tune the m5 would pull harder then the M6 cab...
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      11-18-2012, 05:47 PM   #4
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Curious as to how many people are in each car?
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      11-19-2012, 09:58 AM   #5
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Is that car half brown and half white
Half matte black and half white.

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Curious as to how many people are in each car?
There are 2 in each vehicle. 1 driver and 1 camera person.
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Half matte black and half white.
It's the mad cow edition!
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All I know is that the next generation M5 is going to be so much faster than the F10 M5 the way that the F10 M5 is so much faster than the E60 M5 and so on.
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      11-19-2012, 01:20 PM   #7
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wow. a tuned m5 is gonna be crazy.
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Pointless exercise. Vert M6 aka certified fat lady is more than 4500lbs and much heavier than M5. Stock M5 should be even or slightly faster so no new ground here.

Run M6 Couple and then we are talking. Title should be F10 M5 (tune) Vs F13 M6 (NOT F12 M6) stock - Gthaus

Add in decent sized passenger and driver in M6 and you are pushing 4800lbs-4900lbs Something is seriously wrong in this world when M6 Vert with 2 passengers is close to 5000lbs.

Please make next video with M6 Coupe.
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Well, we think it is not that pointless and here are the reasons why. This can be a fun debate.

Stock to stock, M5 sedan is 110 kg lighter than M6 Cab (1945 kg vs 2045 kg), however our tested F10 M5 was a fully loaded vehicle (with such as HUD, Night Vision, Full leather option, cooling seats, B&O audio etc) while tested F12 M6 Cab was a lightly loaded vehicle without such mentioned options. Moreover combined passenger weight of M5 was approx. 50 lbs heavier than passenger weight of M6 Cab.

Therefore, the total maximum (at the most) weight difference is 100 lbs or less. We think mere approx. 100 lbs or less weight will NOT make such a huge difference in full “power” acceleration (in rolling Acceleration pull comparison) as you see on this particular video, especially when it comes to vehicles like these, which are approx 2000 kg and have TQ value of 680NM/1500-5750 RPM (& 560+ hp)…..

Also, on BMW official website,
in fact, M5 Sedan and M6 Cab is listed as the same (0-62MPH) acceleration time (4.3 Sec)
while M6 coupe has a acceleration figure of 4.2 Sec (due to significant weight difference - Coupe vs Cab or Coupe vs Sedan).

If you still think our quick road test (M5 vs M6 cab) was an improper one, or have any doubts about the result,
please stop by and see & feel the difference yourself, we would like to invite anyone who is really curious to know.
Also whenever we get a chance to run against an M6 Coupe (F13) with this M5,
we will certainly do so, and will let you know, But we are pretty confident that the result will stay the same.
This impressively tuned F10 M5 will be faster than Stock F10 M5 or M6 (F12/F13).


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      11-20-2012, 04:57 AM   #11
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Well, we think it is not that pointless and here are the reasons why. This can be a fun debate.

Stock to stock, M5 sedan is 110 kg lighter than M6 Cab (1945 kg vs 2045 kg), however our tested F10 M5 was a fully loaded vehicle (with such as HUD, Night Vision, Full leather option, cooling seats, B&O audio etc) while tested F12 M6 Cab was a lightly loaded vehicle without such mentioned options. Moreover combined passenger weight of M5 was approx. 50 lbs heavier than passenger weight of M6 Cab.
sligthly loaded m6 cab is 2100kg+ (messured by ams and sport auto)
There is easily 200 pounds wight difference.. with optioned cars.
can you messure your m6 cab, would be interested in result
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      11-20-2012, 08:55 AM   #12
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I'm ready for your ECU tune!!
After the ECU re-up we should get another M5 with a different exhaust and ECU tune and do a real test!!!

LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!

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Well, we think it is not that pointless and here are the reasons why. This can be a fun debate.

Stock to stock, M5 sedan is 110 kg lighter than M6 Cab (1945 kg vs 2045 kg), however our tested F10 M5 was a fully loaded vehicle (with such as HUD, Night Vision, Full leather option, cooling seats, B&O audio etc) while tested F12 M6 Cab was a lightly loaded vehicle without such mentioned options. Moreover combined passenger weight of M5 was approx. 50 lbs heavier than passenger weight of M6 Cab.

Therefore, the total maximum (at the most) weight difference is 100 lbs or less. We think mere approx. 100 lbs or less weight will NOT make such a huge difference in full “power” acceleration (in rolling Acceleration pull comparison) as you see on this particular video, especially when it comes to vehicles like these, which are approx 2000 kg and have TQ value of 680NM/1500-5750 RPM (& 560+ hp)…..

Also, on BMW official website,
in fact, M5 Sedan and M6 Cab is listed as the same (0-62MPH) acceleration time (4.3 Sec)
while M6 coupe has a acceleration figure of 4.2 Sec (due to significant weight difference - Coupe vs Cab or Coupe vs Sedan).

If you still think our quick road test (M5 vs M6 cab) was an improper one, or have any doubts about the result,
please stop by and see & feel the difference yourself, we would like to invite anyone who is really curious to know.
Also whenever we get a chance to run against an M6 Coupe (F13) with this M5,
we will certainly do so, and will let you know, But we are pretty confident that the result will stay the same.
This impressively tuned F10 M5 will be faster than Stock F10 M5 or M6 (F12/F13).


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      11-20-2012, 09:16 AM   #13
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Well, we think it is not that pointless and here are the reasons why. This can be a fun debate.

Stock to stock, M5 sedan is 110 kg lighter than M6 Cab (1945 kg vs 2045 kg), however our tested F10 M5 was a fully loaded vehicle (with such as HUD, Night Vision, Full leather option, cooling seats, B&O audio etc) while tested F12 M6 Cab was a lightly loaded vehicle without such mentioned options. Moreover combined passenger weight of M5 was approx. 50 lbs heavier than passenger weight of M6 Cab.

Therefore, the total maximum (at the most) weight difference is 100 lbs or less. We think mere approx. 100 lbs or less weight will NOT make such a huge difference in full “power” acceleration (in rolling Acceleration pull comparison) as you see on this particular video, especially when it comes to vehicles like these, which are approx 2000 kg and have TQ value of 680NM/1500-5750 RPM (& 560+ hp)…..

Also, on BMW official website,
in fact, M5 Sedan and M6 Cab is listed as the same (0-62MPH) acceleration time (4.3 Sec)
while M6 coupe has a acceleration figure of 4.2 Sec (due to significant weight difference - Coupe vs Cab or Coupe vs Sedan).

If you still think our quick road test (M5 vs M6 cab) was an improper one, or have any doubts about the result,
please stop by and see & feel the difference yourself, we would like to invite anyone who is really curious to know.
Also whenever we get a chance to run against an M6 Coupe (F13) with this M5,
we will certainly do so, and will let you know, But we are pretty confident that the result will stay the same.
This impressively tuned F10 M5 will be faster than Stock F10 M5 or M6 (F12/F13).


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      11-20-2012, 10:40 AM   #14
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I'm ready for your ECU tune!!
After the ECU re-up we should get another M5 with a different exhaust and ECU tune and do a real test!!!

LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!
Long~ wait Rob, we are sure you are ready to do this.
Thank you for your months of patience on this ECU development. It is now ready finally. LOL

Since your M5 is already equipped with Meisterschaft GTC exhaust unit,
It will be a true beast when you couple up with this matching (TYR tech ECU) tune for sure!
Lets GOOOOOOOO !!!
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Is there a tune available on the shelf?
Dying here
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      11-21-2012, 09:55 AM   #16
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YES, sir.
TYR TECH (STAGE 1) ECU is ready to go.
Meisterschaft Full cat-back system is ready to go.
For both M5 and M6. Give us a call~!!
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Is there a tune available on the shelf?
Dying here
TYR TECH - Stage 1 TUNE with Meist GTC - Available RIGHT NOW!!
Average HP,TQ gain we have seen so far on different vehicles
with Meisterschaft Cat-back exhaust system: +70-80 HP / +90-100 TQ

And It is Flash file process thru OBD port.
Easy upgrade process and also easy to revert back to stock ECU at anytime.
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