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      11-04-2012, 10:04 AM   #1
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Which oil out of the 4 choices??

Hi Guys,

I was at the dealer yesterday buying all of my new ///M accessories and i asked about a quart of oil, they assured me that i was supposed to use the TWS 10W-60 which we all know is wrong. After about 2 hours of crazy searching i found out that the new Castrol German made oil that is LL01 approved is now called: Castrol Edge SPT 0W-30

My question is should i go with which of the following for the new M5? i am torn:

1) Genuine BMW High Performance 5W-30
2) Castrol Edge SPT LL01 approved 0W-30
3) Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40
4) Redline 5W-30

All of these are LL01 approved except for the Redline oil

I live in Miami FL and i will push the car to the limits here and there, i probably wont track the car if only maybe a few times in its life.

Thoughts??
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In the manual it says you can use:

0W-30
0W-40
5W-30
5W-40

You might want to find out what (competent) BMW dealers use for the 1M, X5M, and X6M, since I believe they have the exact same oil spec as the M5. I'm reading that 5W-30 tends to be used in the US, but not sure about brand.

I'm not surprised that a dealer thought 10W-60 was needed, sadly. I just hope they'd notice the spec on the oil cap before actually putting that into someone's car....
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BMW 5W-30 is what's in my M5 and that's what I'll continue to use. However, the attached file shows all approved oils for use in the S63T(U) engine.

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      11-04-2012, 10:43 AM   #4
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Just get the BMW oil.
Another option is Mobil 1 0W40, which is also LL01/ACEA3. But I burned oil with this vs not burning a drop I with the BMW oil in an N54 engine.
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Hi Guys,

I was at the dealer yesterday buying all of my new ///M accessories and i asked about a quart of oil, they assured me that i was supposed to use the TWS 10W-60 which we all know is wrong. After about 2 hours of crazy searching i found out that the new Castrol German made oil that is LL01 approved is now called: Castrol Edge SPT 0W-30

My question is should i go with which of the following for the new M5? i am torn:

1) Genuine BMW High Performance 5W-30
2) Castrol Edge SPT LL01 approved 0W-30
3) Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40
4) Redline 5W-30

All of these are LL01 approved except for the Redline oil

I live in Miami FL and i will push the car to the limits here and there, i probably wont track the car if only maybe a few times in its life.

Thoughts??
I have a strong preference for 0W-30 myself. I think it provides better protection at start up and at both higher and lower temperatures.
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      11-04-2012, 10:50 AM   #6
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      11-04-2012, 11:21 AM   #7
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Amazon sells #2 for about $7.50 a quart
http://www.amazon.com/Castrol-06244-...strol+Edge+SPT
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BMW put 5w-30 during my service. Assume I need to continue using 5w-30 when topping off? Or can I use the Castrol 0w-30?
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What about royal purple ?
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      11-04-2012, 04:36 PM   #10
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What about royal purple ?
They aren't BMW approved. Neither is AMSOIL.

If you want that sort of thing, you should get Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 european blend. Bob the oil guy uses it.

The thing that bothers me about Castrol Edge is I have read multiple reviews saying it is a dirty oil. There is also a video on youtube comparing it to BMW Oil and the BMW oil seems cleaner. This a concern in an engine known to burn oil. You want an oil which produces little ash.
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      11-04-2012, 09:25 PM   #11
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What about royal purple ?
They aren't BMW approved. Neither is AMSOIL.

If you want that sort of thing, you should get Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 european blend. Bob the oil guy uses it.

The thing that bothers me about Castrol Edge is I have read multiple reviews saying it is a dirty oil. There is also a video on youtube comparing it to BMW Oil and the BMW oil seems cleaner. This a concern in an engine known to burn oil. You want an oil which produces little ash.
I think that YouTube video test actually shows the bmw oil to be sludgy and the castrol holding up better?!?
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actually, if I may add ...

I doubt any of the M5 owners will do oil change once a year, therefore, I believe any brands oil (approved) will do.

I will change mine out every 6 months
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actually, if I may add ...

I doubt any of the M5 owners will do oil change once a year, therefore, I believe any brands oil (approved) will do.

I will change mine out every 6 months
Yes that's what I do too. In the past I used to do every 4 months, but 6 months seems more sensible.
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      11-05-2012, 01:46 PM   #14
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ill do mine every 5-7k miles with motul 5w40
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Time or distance?

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ill do mine every 5-7k miles with motul 5w40
It seems to me the mileage based oil change is the more sensible method rather than a time based change interval? I'm not knowledgable about the chemical properties of oils, either petroleum based or synthetic, but I wouldn't think the oil breaks down while sitting in the oil pan over time. It's the wear and tear on the oil while lubricating moving parts that is the primary factor.
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For those in Europe ... here is a current offering on the Castrol Edge FST 0W40 5 L for 39.50 Euro. Not sure if this is a good deal or not.

http://www.schmiedmann.com/5_series/...ge3.htm#paging
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Just an update since I started this thread, I am very good friends with my dealer's shop foreman (bmw mechanic) and he ensured me to use the regular bmw high performance oil 5w-30 (in the silver bottle that they use for the regular 535i)

He said that he would highly recommend me paying for an additional oil change in between at 5k intervals if I am planning on keeping the car and i want to be in great shape

I will allow him to use the bmw oil even though i hear it can sludge earlier than Castrol, i mentioned this sludge factor and he said 'that's why I said to do it every 5k'

Lets see what happens, I'm not so sure I feel like showing up to my oil change appt with bags of my own castrol oil either...
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Just an update since I started this thread, I am very good friends with my dealer's shop foreman (bmw mechanic) and he ensured me to use the regular bmw high performance oil 5w-30 (in the silver bottle that they use for the regular 535i)

He said that he would highly recommend me paying for an additional oil change in between at 5k intervals if I am planning on keeping the car and i want to be in great shape

I will allow him to use the bmw oil even though i hear it can sludge earlier than Castrol, i mentioned this sludge factor and he said 'that's why I said to do it every 5k'

Lets see what happens, I'm not so sure I feel like showing up to my oil change appt with bags of my own castrol oil either...
Which dealer do you use? I just did my break in service at the dealer.

I may go independent for off cycle oil changes and bring bags of 0W-30
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I'm at south, Braman is just too big and I know everyone at south. Michele is the mechanic I was speaking about, and Armando Cajigas is the SA

Which 0w-30 will you use??
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I'm at south, Braman is just too big and I know everyone at south. Michele is the mechanic I was speaking about, and Armando Cajigas is the SA

Which 0w-30 will you use??
I'm thinking of making the switch to GC 0W-30 soon. How many quarts do I need? Should I just buy the oil on Amazon and then take it to your guy Armando?
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#2 is my choice.
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