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      12-05-2012, 01:16 AM   #1
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Why RS6 is faster than M5

The new RS6 has been released. Twin Turbo V8 4.0 liters engines, will produce 560hp and 700N.M. 0-100km/h in 3.9 sec(WTF) 8 speed gearbox, only 9.8L/100km(WtF???)

I wondering the HP and Torque on both car are almost same, why Audi makes it much faster than M5.

Sorry the title should be M5. I typed wrong
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      12-05-2012, 01:21 AM   #2
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The new RS6 has been released. Twin Turbo V8 4.0 liters engines, will produce 560hp and 700N.M. 0-100km/h in 3.9 sec(WTF) 8 speed gearbox, only 9.8L/100km(WtF???)

I wondering the HP and Torque on both car are almost same, why Audi makes it much faster than M5.

Sorry the title should be M5. I typed wrong
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      12-05-2012, 01:27 AM   #3
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The new RS6 has been released. Twin Turbo V8 4.0 liters engines, will produce 560hp and 700N.M. 0-100km/h in 3.9 sec(WTF) 8 speed gearbox, only 9.8L/100km(WtF???)

I wondering the HP and Torque on both car are almost same, why Audi makes it much faster than M5.

Sorry the title should be M5. I typed wrong
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      12-05-2012, 02:14 AM   #4
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The new RS6 has not even been released, what are you talking about..
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      12-05-2012, 03:56 AM   #5
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First of all, the RS6 has Not been released yet.

Second, the fastest recorded M5 0-60 time was 3.78 seconds. So no the RS6 is NOT faster.

(If you really want to compare 0-60 time, tell me why the Nissan GTR with 530hp does 0-60 in 2.7?)
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      12-05-2012, 04:32 AM   #6
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Rarely if ever has the RS6 been faster overall than the M5. Not sure why that would have changed now. But even if it has who cares ? If you are concerned go and buy an RS6 .....
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      12-05-2012, 04:45 AM   #7
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Rarely if ever has the RS6 been faster overall than the M5. Not sure why that would have changed now. But even if it has who cares ? If you are concerned go and buy an RS6 .....
Guys honestly, I keep reading a lot of silly topics on the board, what's going on? nothing interesting to share about our cars ?

I will list a few examples, Do I need to signal when changing lanes, Do I need to watch for the Speed Limit... WTF ???

Let's get our act together...
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      12-05-2012, 06:21 AM   #8
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The reality is the RS6 will most likely be a quicker car then the M5. The RS6 will have an Audi claimed 570+ hp. Given that actually real world dyno's are showing the S8 actually has 575 hp's the RS6 will have 600+ hp.

The advantage will be AWD! M cars need to face reality that 500+ hp cars need AWD. Since AMG is offering the E63 in 4matic for 2014 I would guess M will need to do AWD to stay competitive. It's just a fact of traction.
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      12-05-2012, 06:58 AM   #9
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Audi announced 2014 RS6 to officially have 552 hp. However, my assumptions above I still assert are correct on it being quicker then M5.
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      12-05-2012, 07:01 AM   #10
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The RS6 looks muscular...

560hp/700Nm - 4l V8 with twin turbos inside the V (same as the BMW V8 turbo engine concept...)

Official press release from Audi:

http://www.rs6.com/audirs6/RS6com-eT...ant-051212.pdf

Sound of RS6 testing on the Nürburgring:


















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      12-05-2012, 07:14 AM   #11
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4 wheels traction is better than 2 wheels.

I like to see what is the 1/4 mile #
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      12-05-2012, 07:38 AM   #12
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That thing is ugly, I don't even care how fast it goes...

You see, it's not about the speed, its about the handling, cornering and the M Brand that is so fascinating.

My grandmother knows what an m5/m3 is

What is an RS(anything)? It's a knock off, that's what it is..

All wheel drive would be nice but although Audi has been doing better they are have always been garbage until about 2 years ago in my opinion and they have nothing on the legacy of the M... Hence the grandmother statement...

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      12-05-2012, 07:50 AM   #13
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Audi tries too hard to be like BMW and Mercedes. In my opinion, Audi isn't even on the same level...
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      12-05-2012, 08:00 AM   #14
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The anwser is simple... THE Audi has four wheel drive the BMW is rear wheel drive. I am not biased but I would take the M5 over the RS6 anyday. It seperates the men from the children + its more fun in the track
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      12-05-2012, 08:38 AM   #15
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very nice, except for the "honey comb" seats......yeesh!!!! those seats are nasty!!
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      12-05-2012, 08:51 AM   #16
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put it this way. even if RS6 goes to 100km/h a little quicker, handles a little better with AWD, costs a little less, I'd still go for M5, as I just can't stand the big front grill of the Audi.
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      12-05-2012, 09:21 AM   #17
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Power output dates m5 vs rs6

m5 560hp from 5750-7000rpm, rs6 560hp from 5700-6700
m5 680nm from 1500-5750rpm, rs6 700nm from 1750-5500

the m5 has a wider power band than the rs6 on max hp and max torque output.
rs6 has 20nm more of torque (probably not mesurable)

Despite of Audi saying the new rs6 will be 220 pounds later than hes pescedor we will probably see fully equiped rs6 avant around 2,1 tonnes
(Weighted new S6 was around 2100kg as well, and audi claimes it lighter than the old s6)

So we will see at least 100kg / 220 pound between m5 and rs6 (rs6 heavier)

it could be likely that the rs6 is quicker 0-62 than the m5 due to his all whele drive, but above those speeds i bet for the m5

an unknown parametre is the gear ratio, audi 8 gears vs m5 7 gear..
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      12-05-2012, 09:47 AM   #18
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Guys honestly, I keep reading a lot of silly topics on the board, what's going on? nothing interesting to share about our cars ?

I will list a few examples, Do I need to signal when changing lanes, Do I need to watch for the Speed Limit... WTF ???

Let's get our act together...
Really? From a member that signed up in August.

Also, the vast majority of people on the M5 post site dont own the F10 M5. Thats why you get stupid threrads.
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      12-05-2012, 09:51 AM   #19
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Really? From a member that signed up in August.

Also, the vast majority of people on the M5 post site dont own the F10 M5. Thats why you get stupid threrads.
You mean to tell me that not everyone on this forum can afford a 100k car?! NO WAY!
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You mean to tell me that not everyone on this forum can afford a 100k car?! NO WAY!
No. Thats what you understood.
I am saying that you will get non technical threads on BS if the posters cant contribute on any item they dont own. For example I cant contribute ANYTHING to a 458 message board because I dont own one. Thats all I meant.

All I see around here is threads on 10k exhausts and crappy carbon fiber bits. Im about to pull the plug on the site.
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      12-05-2012, 10:22 AM   #21
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gotta give it time...the car is new....or look elsewhere...still plenty to be learned from some threads.....for comparable bracket....best wagon...bracket aside...the ff would do it
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Call me crazy but I like that RS6 Avant a lot. If I wanted a wagon, that would be my choice. Debadged, blacked out, very stealthy. No one would know what it is or its capabilities. I'm a fan. That being said, i wouldnt choose an RS6 sedan over my M5 sedan but that Avant really does it for me.
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