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      10-09-2013, 05:50 PM   #1
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Flashback, March 2009 I brought my M3 to the dealer for a sound coming out of the engine bay.

A few days went by and the dealer told me I exceeded the computer max governed velocity more than a few times, and went over the set redline by 100rpms 1500 times.

If you're not familiar with the generic E9x tunes, they traditionally* increase the governed speed and increase third-gear redline by 100-200rpms.

According to the dealers evidence from BMW NA, I got in the habit of using the last 100rpms, 1500 times.

The shop-forman who I was on good terms with suggested I come pickup the vehicle before it's warranty red-flagged.

Now that you're all familiar with my story on a previous gen BMW with less computer logging and engine management than the new and current gen cars would you still tune your beast?
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      10-09-2013, 06:30 PM   #2
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Doing the bolts ons that shouldnt void warranty. Catted DP's, Intake, Exhaust.
Even a tune comes out to delete CEL for catless, im sure they would still void me for molesting the ECU in some fashion.

Maybe tune after warranty is up.
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I am curious why you think the car needs a tune. Don't you think it has enough power at the moment ?
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I am curious why you think the car needs a tune. Don't you think it has enough power at the moment ?
I think everyone has this initial feeling. Then you have some challenge from a lesser vehicle that is modified that provides you with an outcome that makes you suddenly feel like you need more power.

Or you take out your buddy's GTR, he gets a tune, now you need a tune to stay on top, etc.
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Flashback, March 2009 I brought my M3 to the dealer for a sound coming out of the engine bay.

A few days went by and the dealer told me I exceeded the computer max governed velocity more than a few times, and went over the set redline by 100rpms 1500 times.

If you're not familiar with the generic E9x tunes, they traditionally* increase the governed speed and increase third-gear redline by 100-200rpms.

According to the dealers evidence from BMW NA, I got in the habit of using the last 100rpms, 1500 times.

The shop-forman who I was on good terms with suggested I come pickup the vehicle before it's warranty red-flagged.

Now that you're all familiar with my story on a previous gen BMW with less computer logging and engine management than the new and current gen cars would you still tune your beast?
Agreed. Easy to detect. I know a tuner who was messing with an F10 and while it was in his shop the car displayed a message that the car had been updated with software form a non-authorized source and was logged.-True story.
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one word.....dinan.
This has been covered a lot here-no Dinan tune. They are working on major engine upgrades at a big ticket.
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1500! not bad, u were using the car for the purpose it was built for
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The G-Series M5 will be out before Dinan ever comes out with a tune for the F10 M5.
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well they added F10 M5 section to their website.....something is coming maybe just exhaust....I think they will have a tune soon...and i thought this thread was about if you would tune your car, i was saying yes i would, via dinan and thus keeping the warranty
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hey just saw a pic of your cls63 next to the m6
i noticed your cls63 had an sline next to the it?
i thought the slines only came out 2014 model?
did you change the badge?
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Flashback, March 2009 I brought my M3 to the dealer for a sound coming out of the engine bay.

A few days went by and the dealer told me I exceeded the computer max governed velocity more than a few times, and went over the set redline by 100rpms 1500 times.

If you're not familiar with the generic E9x tunes, they traditionally* increase the governed speed and increase third-gear redline by 100-200rpms.

According to the dealers evidence from BMW NA, I got in the habit of using the last 100rpms, 1500 times.

The shop-forman who I was on good terms with suggested I come pickup the vehicle before it's warranty red-flagged.

Now that you're all familiar with my story on a previous gen BMW with less computer logging and engine management than the new and current gen cars would you still tune your beast?


Exactly why I went with the Switzer solution. I have been running the unit for almost a month now and I can say without a doubt, the car is considerably quicker. No errors logged or displayed and extremely simple to remove. For all you doubters out there, I used similar solutions on past turbo cars that I have owned and have never had a problem. A bit more boost never hurt anybody!
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one word.....dinan.
The G-Series M5 will be out before Dinan ever comes out with a tune for the F10 M5.
Haha, nice.

I have no need for a tune. I can't speak to others; their need to drag race, compete, or prove their "size" compared to others.

My guess is the cost of tune would be better invested in driving/tracking lessons unless all you wanted to do is drag your four seat sedan.
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Exactly why I went with the Switzer solution. I have been running the unit for almost a month now and I can say without a doubt, the car is considerably quicker. No errors logged or displayed and extremely simple to remove. For all you doubters out there, I used similar solutions on past turbo cars that I have owned and have never had a problem. A bit more boost never hurt anybody!
Doesn't our DME log the amount of boost the car is running?
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Flashback, March 2009 I brought my M3 to the dealer for a sound coming out of the engine bay.

A few days went by and the dealer told me I exceeded the computer max governed velocity more than a few times, and went over the set redline by 100rpms 1500 times.

If you're not familiar with the generic E9x tunes, they traditionally* increase the governed speed and increase third-gear redline by 100-200rpms.

According to the dealers evidence from BMW NA, I got in the habit of using the last 100rpms, 1500 times.

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Now that you're all familiar with my story on a previous gen BMW with less computer logging and engine management than the new and current gen cars would you still tune your beast?


Exactly why I went with the Switzer solution. I have been running the unit for almost a month now and I can say without a doubt, the car is considerably quicker. No errors logged or displayed and extremely simple to remove. For all you doubters out there, I used similar solutions on past turbo cars that I have owned and have never had a problem. A bit more boost never hurt anybody!
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Doesn't our DME log the amount of boost the car is running?
Some report it doesn't but I would image it does. I have no evidence to back my fact. With a piggyback and or downpipes you're raising boost. So warranty, possibly gone.
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personally dont think the car needs anything extra.

but when I was at my dealer in UK for m5 oil service they showed me some of the data they can pull off the DME and it's pretty substantial so it would not surprise me if they were able to say that you have gone over a limit they set.
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Wouldn't this be covered in the warranty terms and conditions. I admit I haven't read them. But for bmw to say a warranty is invalid for some reasons like the above then this would need to be written down to be enforceable. Don't think dealers can just decide its invalid.
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Doesn't our DME log the amount of boost the car is running?
Yes it does and can be read remotely if required.
I am reliably told all info is stored on the key fob !!, not sure this is true but would not surprise me.
My LCI is fast enough for me, I can not exploit it's full potential off track.
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The days of tunes and factory warranty are ending soon. I want to tune my ZL1 but Chevrolet will void warranty if I do so.

I believe Audi does the same. The manufacturers got tired of fixing vehicles that a shade tree mechanic tuned...
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The days of tunes and factory warranty are ending soon. I want to tune my ZL1 but Chevrolet will void warranty if I do so.

I believe Audi does the same. The manufacturers got tired of fixing vehicles that a shade tree mechanic tuned...
Agreed.
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one word.....dinan.
I have not purchased Dinan products in the past, but based on their website their 'warranty' is 2 year/24k miles and they will pay for costs if warranty work requires payments.

The local BMW dealer here is an authorized Dinan rep and I'm sure there is a friendly relationship between the 2 entities if work is required. But if i'm reading between the lines if BMW says warranty voided, it's Dinan's problem and then you're on your own...??
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