Viper vs the world at Pocono raceway (roll racing)

[Timberwolf]

Sorry gents, not driving the M5 anymore, which I had last year at this event. But hey, who doesn't love a good roll race!!
It was definetly a fun day at the track with a great a diversity of cars and a great group of enthusiasts. There ended up being 3 Gen V Vipers there.

I had some issues with my gopro early in the day, but managed to capture a few good races.

I should note that my car reached 900 miles on the way to Pocono raceway...

vs Ferrari 458
I don't know what this guy was doing but didn't seem to want a re-do..

vs C7 Z06
Super nice guy with track experience. Said he had some cooling mods to the car but otherwise stock.

vs Porsche 997.2 Turbo S
One badass car. This later 997 has the PDK dual clutch tranny. Built by Champion Motorsports, with FBO and meth injection. 9 second car all day. This thing off the line is a complete animal. Also a super cool dude.
I think had we gone another gear I could have come back some...

vs 2008 Porsche Turbo
Another FBO car. This is an earlier gen 997 with a manual. Nice guy with a well prepped car. He said he had a Cobb tune, full header back exhaust, lightweight flywheel and clutch and intercoolers.

vs Gen 4 Procharged Mustang
FBO said the car made 650whp on a good day but prob 620 that day.

[Vic55]

Nice runs TW--- what was the speeds from and to?

[boots]

Yesterday I raced 2015 Z06 x3. He got the jump but once I was in Midrange I started pulling up on him but we ran out of room. He only had 3/4 car on me. I will post up the vid when his friend sends it to me. I lost the race since it was a short run but otherwise it showed how strong my car was pulling.

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Nice runs TW--- what was the speeds from and to?

Most were 60 to 140s or so.

Originally Posted by boots

Yesterday I raced 2015 Z06 x3. He got the jump but once I was in Midrange I started pulling up on him but we ran out of room. He only had 3/4 car on me. I will post up the vid when his friend sends it to me. I lost the race since it was a short run but otherwise it showed how strong my car was pulling.

That makes sense. I ran a best of 149 at this event with a near 150, which I ran last year with the M5. Granted the M5 made 700 wheel
I will note that the driver of the Z06 was above average and powershifted which most owners don't do.

[Lalit@autocouture]

Love your new ride brother

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by Lalit@AUTOcouture

Love your new ride brother

Thanks Lalit! Great seeing you as usual! What a cool day.

[RPiM5]

Nice videos! Thanks for sharing man!

I ran a 155mph last year with my M5.

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Nice videos! Thanks for sharing man!

I ran a 155mph last year with my M5.

Yeah you guys at Mpact had higher traps last year... This year we were all sobered by start times as well. Lots of dudes leaving at faster speeds impacting their traps. 155 sounds way fast. My best was 150 and I had the fastest M5 ET of the day at 9 seconds. 5mph faster would mean you were making well over 750 wheel. Moe's car makes big power and I don't think he was anywhere near 155 this year. Maybe you and your car are ninjas!!

Moe any input?

[IANNUZZI]

Great runs. I think you would have lost more ground if you both would have gone another gear vs the 997.2, the PDK just shifts so much faster than any manual....

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Great runs. I think you would have lost more ground if you both would have gone another gear vs the 997.2, the PDK just shifts so much faster than any manual....

Actually my trap speed was higher so I was making up ground and would have powershifted 5th and lost little ground.

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Actually my trap speed was higher so I was making up ground and would have powershifted 5th and lost little ground.

Bro, those champion 911s trap 135mph in the 1/4.... He got a huge jump on you, are you sure he didn't let off after he clearly had u beat?

What are your 1/4 mile traps, if you had a chance to get em'?

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Bro, those champion 911s trap 135mph in the 1/4.... He got a huge jump on you, are you sure he didn't let off after he clearly had u beat?

What are your 1/4 mile traps, if you had a chance to get em'?

My car has 900 miles on the clock.. Barely broken in. So nothing but what you see. This guy knew what he was doing and wasn't letting off the throttle till the cones. If you look closely, the 2nd and 3rd gear pulling stops right where the stock 997.2 turbo torque probably dies out and HP takes over for 4th gear right where the Viper's long legs thrive. In most of the races, if you notice the Viper pulls hardest in 4th.

His trap speed for that run was 147.25 and mine was 147.73.

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

My car has 900 miles on the clock.. Barely broken in. So nothing but what you see. This guy knew what he was doing and wasn't letting off the throttle till the cones. If you look closely, the 2nd and 3rd gear pulling stops right where the stock 997.2 turbo torque probably dies out and HP takes over for 4th gear right where the Viper's long legs thrive. In most of the races, if you notice the Viper pulls hardest in 4th.

His trap speed for that run was 147.25 and mine was 147.73.

That's interesting, I would think that the 911 would be between 5-7k rpms the whole race except maybe passed the initial cones.... Do you know if he was on stock turbos?

how much do you think you gained with the tune?

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

That's interesting, I would think that the 911 would be between 5-7k rpms the whole race except maybe passed the initial cones.... Do you know if he was on stock turbos?

how much do you think you gained with the tune?

I believe he has the Champion Motorsport turbo upgrade. The guy told me he sends the car to them for revision each year..

My tune.. Maybe 20 to 30hp...

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

I believe he has the Champion Motorsport turbo upgrade. The guy told me he sends the car to them for revision each year..

My tune.. Maybe 20 to 30hp...

I imagine it is considerably quicker than your last s63tu with BMS!

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

I imagine it is considerably than your last s63tu with BMS!

Im assuming you meant less than the S63tu.
Such a great motor wasted in such a big heavy car...

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Im assuming you meant less than the S63tu.
Such a great motor wasted in such a big heavy car...

Yes exactly, imagine the viper is quicker....

[Timberwolf]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Yes exactly, imagine the viper is quicker....

Hard to tell without testing... In order to achieve maxmum velocity in the viper you need to work. In the m5 you can just sit back and feel the power. 4th gear in the m5 was nuts.... I need to race a solid m5

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Hard to tell without testing... In order to achieve maxmum velocity in the viper you need to work. In the m5 you can just sit back and feel the power. 4th gear in the m5 was nuts.... I need to race a solid m5

I believe a tune only dct m5 on 93+ will run with your ecu'd viper , both trap ~ 130mph. Shifting needs to be perfect in the viper though....

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by boots

Yesterday I raced 2015 Z06 x3. He got the jump but once I was in Midrange I started pulling up on him but we ran out of room. He only had 3/4 car on me. I will post up the vid when his friend sends it to me. I lost the race since it was a short run but otherwise it showed how strong my car was pulling.

Look fwd to it.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by boots

Yesterday I raced 2015 Z06 x3. He got the jump but once I was in Midrange I started pulling up on him but we ran out of room. He only had 3/4 car on me. I will post up the vid when his friend sends it to me. I lost the race since it was a short run but otherwise it showed how strong my car was pulling.

Cool. I've been looking for this answer. Any roll racer than can put space on the M5 has my attention. Was the Vette stock?

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Timberwolf

Yeah you guys at Mpact had higher traps last year... This year we were all sobered by start times as well. Lots of dudes leaving at faster speeds impacting their traps. 155 sounds way fast. My best was 150 and I had the fastest M5 ET of the day at 9 seconds. 5mph faster would mean you were making well over 750 wheel. Moe's car makes big power and I don't think he was anywhere near 155 this year. Maybe you and your car are ninjas!!

Moe any input?

Yeah Moe and I did one race last year and he edged me out. I was running with my BMS set at only 3.2psi the whole time but for my last few runs I was able to switch to a 100% high octane gas in my gas tank where as I had been running all day with a mix of 93 Octane and 103 Octane if I recall. It was one of my last runs of the day when I was racing someone else that I hit 155mph. I forget my time, but I was starting consistently between 50 and 60mph all day. Maybe it was higher DA for you guys this year with worse humidity? Although it was hot last year too.