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      05-23-2011, 10:52 PM   #23
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very nice.. but I'm not a big fan of the chrome on the side badge. Anyone know if BMW will actually keep it that way?
I think blackout side grills are gonna be popular. The chrome reminds me of a Kia.
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      05-23-2011, 11:12 PM   #24
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I'd rather just have an option to make the car lighter, or have more power

Forgive my ignorance, but why are ceramic brakes so great (and expensive) vs regular?
They're 25-50% lighter (rotors) than regular steelies. They can withstand higher temperature's of heat and longer. Plus its racing derived so that alone makes it $$
Weight reduction of significance?
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      05-23-2011, 11:12 PM   #25
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I would be willing to bet that it will not come with chrome handles and chrome trim around the windows, however I'm equally confident that the big ugly side gille will come chrome, but will be an easy swap. Just have it painted locally at the body shop, no need to wait for someone to even come out with it.
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      05-23-2011, 11:39 PM   #26
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wow yay sweeeeeeeet!!!
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As much as I love BMW giving us a ceramic brake option, don't those things squeal like a bitch until they heat up? Unless you plan on tracking it (which is probably a lower % than m3 owners), most folks would be happier with the steel option as a daily driver. I bet the ceramics will end up being a baller option for most.
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      05-24-2011, 12:42 AM   #28
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Also remember most people who track seriously don't use ceramics. They are $$$$ as they keep wearing out.
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Like the look.
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      05-24-2011, 12:55 AM   #30
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yah, some weight savings.
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      05-24-2011, 01:21 AM   #31
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my guess is it comes with it that way bmw wont have to change rotors anymore under warranty
I see it the same way, however, the price will be integrated into the base price of the car, hence a hefty price increase
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Weight reduction of significance?
I'll let you know when I get mine Significance yes, in this car..

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As much as I love BMW giving us a ceramic brake option, don't those things squeal like a bitch until they heat up? Unless you plan on tracking it (which is probably a lower % than m3 owners), most folks would be happier with the steel option as a daily driver. I bet the ceramics will end up being a baller option for most.
Doubtful, Past personal experiences in Porsche's with ceramics were squeak-less, and when they were "up to temperature" they bit hard like an attack dog with titanium teeth. Personally, I'd compromise for nothing but the best if I were shelling out 8k for a brake and rotor option.

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that chrome side badge is just nasty ugly wrong.....
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ceramic brakes make me happy.lool
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Hate the side grills.
Hate the chrome trim.
Hate the color.

Is the story that the black rims are going to be standard or what?
Black polished rims with chrome trim... ?
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Yeah, because everyone is going to track their big boat M5's.

Ceramic brakes on a M5 are for piston counters. Epic waste of money on this car.
Agreed BUT when you can get ceramic brakes on the M5 competitors (Porsche Panamera, Mas Quattroporte, Aston Rapide, the upcoming RS6, etc.), I guess BMW decided to put it out there.

Plus, braking represents the most consistent complaint on m car capabilities - the fade is rough. Given that these cars keep getting heavier, solving brake issues offers a big plus for some buyers - even those not tracking their beasts.

I think they went at this car with solving the e60 problems:

a. more fuel efficient than the v10 but also more powerful
b. additional range by increasing mpgs AND tank size
c. better brake option
d. less bangled design.
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      05-24-2011, 10:45 PM   #38
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come to think of it.. wtf are the doing with this much chrome on the M car. WTF.
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      05-25-2011, 07:29 AM   #39
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Love the ceramic brakes, but boo on two things:

1. The kia looking side grill
what are you talking about? most BMW front kidney grills look like that


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2. The back brake. The massive front multipiston calipers look awesome but the back looks out of place and cheapins the look.
back brakes don't do much in terms of stopping power.. front brakes account for as much as 80%.
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      05-30-2011, 12:43 AM   #40
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As much as I love BMW giving us a ceramic brake option, don't those things squeal like a bitch until they heat up? Unless you plan on tracking it (which is probably a lower % than m3 owners), most folks would be happier with the steel option as a daily driver. I bet the ceramics will end up being a baller option for most.
no. they do need to be broken in though. pretty insane break in for the ZR1 brakes. smelt terrible and just felt wrong but apparently had to be done. (I assume it is the same across the board with ceramics, not positive though)
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