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      06-14-2011, 09:11 PM   #89
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      06-14-2011, 09:12 PM   #91
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I wonder if 20" wheels because of brake size?

I"m not a fan due to Bad ride, expensive tires, and curb rash. If the brakes are too big i guess that would be an excuse.
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      06-14-2011, 09:21 PM   #92
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      06-14-2011, 09:28 PM   #93
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      06-14-2011, 09:29 PM   #94
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The front of the M5 is an incoherent jumble of voids. The rest of the car is fine. However the face of the car is quite ugly. There are better choices out there in this price range.
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      06-14-2011, 09:33 PM   #95
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So we lost NA engines for less than 50hp? Well, at least we got a healthy boast in torque.
Wow. Barely more HP than the outgoing model, and NONE more than CTS-V.

Kind of a disappointment, to go with the bitter pill of turbo lag.

Goodbye, M-as-a-drivers-car; hello M-as-PURELY-a-poseurs-car.

Yuk.
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... a glorious V8 that screamed and hollered as the revs rose and then howled in an orgy of what sounded like BDSM ecstasy as it neared the red line.
Well, you can forget all that. The new car is fitted with a turbocharged straight six. Turbocharging? In an M car? Thatís like putting gravy on an ice cream.
- Jeremy Clarkson, discussing the S65 and then S55 M3 engines.
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      06-14-2011, 09:34 PM   #96
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The front of the M5 is an incoherent jumble of voids. The rest of the car is fine. However the face of the car is quite ugly. There are better choices out there in this price range.
AMG CLS63. Future Audi RS5?
Too early to tell we need weight and test numbers and PRICE.
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      06-14-2011, 09:36 PM   #97
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Spoiler Alert: HP is measured at the wheels... just like the 1M
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      06-14-2011, 09:36 PM   #98
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So we lost NA engines for less than 50hp? Well, at least we got a healthy boast in torque.
Wow. Barely more HP than the outgoing model, and NONE more than CTS-V.

Kind of a disappointment, to go with the bitter pill of turbo lag.

Goodbye, M-as-a-drivers-car; hello M-as-PURELY-a-poseurs-car.

Yuk.
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      06-14-2011, 09:41 PM   #99
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      06-14-2011, 09:46 PM   #100
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      06-14-2011, 09:53 PM   #101
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not digging the looks of the car and those calipers shouldve been more sporty(they look so ugly), bmw shouldve learned something by now from mercedes in this regard.
I said it before and Ill say it again, Ill wait for the ///M gran coupe
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      06-14-2011, 09:55 PM   #102
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Too bad about this car. It's a mash of marshmallow styling and weak attempts at aggressive touches. Color me underwhelmed. It's just not that pretty OR aggressive...
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      06-14-2011, 09:55 PM   #103
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Looks good. It will very fast, but the F10 is still big & heavy. I'm curious whether the power steering is hydraulic or electric. I just returned an F10 528i loaner today & the steering was completely devoid of feel. I'm looking forward to the torque vectoring rear diff which seems to be responsible for much of the incredible handling of the X5/6M.
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      06-14-2011, 09:58 PM   #104
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...and everyone for the past two years has called me crazy when I said that this engine would put out no more than the X5/6 M. Told you so.

Anyway, I like the look overall. Looks like the E62/63 wheels but much better. I like the rotors and calipers. Is the weight up another 10% and will the torque really make up for this? Engine picture is great.

Will M DCT be more reliable than the SMG III or can we expect more $5k repairs every 75 kmi?

Active rear diff. is a huge plus. tire and wheel size up just a notch.

Looking forward to breaking into low 20 mi/gal and 400 mi range on road trips. I'm guessing 0-60 mi/h 3.8 s?

Will we get night vision finally?
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      06-14-2011, 10:00 PM   #105
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Oh yeah, and will this thing be able to hang with A Panamera Turbo S? That's the real question. I wouldn't worry about the CTS V or current E63 AMG.
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      06-14-2011, 10:01 PM   #106
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It's beautiful!! I couldn't ask for much more styling-wise, but why am I disappointed with the power figures? I was hoping for something... more. As long as it sends the CTS-V back to the 90's I guess I can't complain
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      06-14-2011, 10:01 PM   #107
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M-Drivers-Package will increase top speed from 250km/h to 305km/h (127mph to 189mph)
250 km/h is 155 mph

No one wants a 127 mph M-car.

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      06-14-2011, 10:04 PM   #108
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Oh yeah, and will this thing be able to hang with A Panamera Turbo S? That's the real question. I wouldn't worry about the CTS V or current E63 AMG.
You're joking right? Is will compare to a panamera S. The turbo S is 0-60 in 3.2 seconds! In a class of it's own.
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      06-14-2011, 10:04 PM   #109
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Did they mention the gas mileage? Just wondering
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      06-14-2011, 10:10 PM   #110
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If this thing doesn't beat the CTS-V and I have to keep seeing those goddam commercials (which they'll most definitely be all over TV again if it doesn't)... I'll be fucking pissed. And massive fail at the hp numbers for the "upgraded" X5/6M engine. Unless, of course, those are whp numbers or something. Then I'll hold a daycare hostage for one of these.
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