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01-03-2024, 10:14 PM | #23 | |
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Actually they can. This incentive only applies to leases which are eligible for a 7,500 reimbursement to BMW from the Federal Government under a loophole within the Inflation Reduction Act. Essentially this incentive costs BMW $2,400. I recognize there are other discounts on top of the $9,900. I suspect the IX was overpriced to begin with and BMW is adjusting the price through discounts and rebates.
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X5 is still a best seller and will continue to be for quite some time. |
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It is a shocker if the chart is to be believed. They’re most likely combining i4 sales with gas 4 series to ‘outsell’ 3 series by 50%. i4 isn’t broken out separately on the chart. If so, Tesla Model 3 outsold all 3 combined.
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The 4 has three body styles vs the one 3 body style. This is probably why the 4 outsells the 3.
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This. 699 a month lease special on the iX vs the 959 a month lease special on the x5. That says it all.
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45k EVs - 17k iX - 5k i7 -1k i5 = 22k i4. That means only +2k non i4 y/y. [I’d also love to see the M3 and M4 sales broken out. But we can infer those as well as M is reported separately. And someone out there is keeping track!] There’s a long way to go for BMW in this EV market, and I believe they are as well positioned as possible once their charges are NACS and we can utilize the superchargers. |
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2315 of yall bought XMs.
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BMW SUVs are very expensive and not that good looking. Most of them are not good off-road either. Now go look at the same sector cars from Toyota and Lexus and you will see a hude difference.
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1) average residual is closer to 60k than to 50k, as a) many of the iX50 were well over 100k MSRP with 55% low mileage residuals and b) ix M60 130k+ MSRP 2) rates were massively subsidised on each lease deal, .00111 iX50 vs .00210 X5 3) projected 60k average residuals in 2026 dollars are likely to be 25-35k cars seeing how some are trading virtually new wholesale in mid 60s now. 4) new EV technology is rapidly improving and there are new competitors that will enter US market between now and 2026. No predicting how these or any other EV models will fair in 3 years. Which may prove my 20-30k loss estimate to be conservative. Save this post |
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Sales of X1 skyrocketed over last year?
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It is a wonder how BMW continues to break sales records year after year with all of the "car shortages" "factory delays" "parts shortages" stated on a daily basis...
Speculation: Since this is a BMW USA sales record, I am wondering if this represents the cars they off loaded to the dealers (aka selling to the dealers) as opposed to the dealers selling the cars to customers. Thus, the higher number of 4 series cars > 3 series is just a representation of BMW producing more 4 series and making dealers buy them (...to then sit on the lots). |
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I understand why some on this board feel the IX will quickly become obsolete. To offer a contrarian perspective l; at one time I owned a 2018 Model3LR AWD. During the last six years there’s only been minimal changes made to vitually any Tesla model. Change has not been rapid. Battery technology will continue to improve but I suspect changes will only be incremental over the next few years. That said…I leased my IX because by doing so I can take advantage of the IRA while eliminating any exposure to unpredictable depreciation. I guess we shall see. |
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