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10-09-2013, 05:51 AM | #27 | |
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Ummmm below is a portion of your post. Value is what you personally perceive is a good deal nothing more. It's all emotional clearly we all drive wants and not needs(: Currently I drive an M3 which I love so I'm slightly predisposed to BMW but I need something bigger (objectively true) and something faster (emotionally true). In looking around, I'm getting rather annoyed at what I'm seeing with Mercedes and BMW. They are ripping us off! |
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I say each to his own, and buy what makes your heart flutter you only live once last time I checked. My other half likes to say why do I have so many cars, and I say why do you have so many pair of shoes and purses. Well that typically ends the conversation in stood way. I have no problem with adds on's or mark up because it's a matter of preference. Hell I still have the first iPad, and it works like all the others. No way I will get rid of it until it freaking breaks. I think you will see more models, upgrades from BMW going forward because they can't afford to drop to a single digit margin with Audi chasing trying to steal market share. Porsche is another example of a car manufacture that made one car a 911, and now look at them multiple products to drive market along with margin. Hats off to BMW for providing us a ton of options to customize a car. LCI not for me because I will never chase minor upgrades. Next thing you know Bam the next model is out, and you're one year into a exiting model in some cases. M5 is a damn good machine for the money hell it has super car power! Funny some cars are loaded with all the toys, and who actually uses all the stuff not me I just drive the crap out of it. |
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I agree. I like the opportunity to customize and make your car different. You pay more to do so. No different than the way some idiots like me keep spending $10K on wheels/tires then trading the dang thing 4 months later. Bottom line-you are paying to get what you like. Spend what you can afford to enjoy. I did the same as Bimmer6. Got my M5 loaded with BO, full leather, rear-ent., piano trim, etc. because I liked the luxury of the sedan. On my P car I got a cool aero kit on the outside and no full leather or crazy interior appointments inside. I liked the sportiness and that was it. Others dress the P cars up for crazy amounts of money too. All about what you WANT with cars-not NEED. Get what you WANT. It is a luxury item and you pay for the extras. Honestly, I think it is the perfect model for the consumer and a very smart business model. |
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It looks so much better IMO without them.
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Cools brakes better too :-)
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1. There is also an installation cost for these features that should be accounted for. 2. In reality, the only way to access these features (outside BMW ZCP) is to buy them separately at an equal or even greater cost (i.e., Eisenmann exhaust $4k + install, H&R springs $600 + install, etc, etc) 3. Your ZCP package is covered under BMW warranty and aftermarket mods are not. As a matter of fact, they may even be taken as an excuse for BMW to void or at least affect the M%'s warranty. Just my 2 cents. |
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Agreed.
I was going to author a response on price discrimination and how option packages are used to encourage buyers to reveal their true price sensitivity, creating additional buyer segments and enabling suppliers to capture additional consumer surplus. but i stopped, knowing that whatever I wrote would be gibberish compared to the knight commander.
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we all see but do not respond , thats the answer,
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I love the idea of personalisation, this is one of the ways of achieving the same car, with different kind of specs and varieties compared with others.
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This is also why I have a hard time considering a Porsche. The price of options on a 991, you could buy a Boxter!
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I feel your pain Pat. I agree with you 100%. Sadly this is just how the market plays.
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