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      10-02-2013, 07:56 PM   #23
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I hope it stays optional and not standard as the generic public, i mean general public cries about not having awd.
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      10-02-2013, 07:57 PM   #24
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disappointed he rules out AWD in M3...I don't plan to buy one without AWD but would consider it if they made it an option like BMW does on the 335. Hopefully they have a change of heart and offer AWD in the M3 also
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      10-02-2013, 07:57 PM   #25
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this completely contradicts what he said officially just a few months ago (see: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=805747) about never doing AWD in M5. next statement will be m3/m4 will also offer AWD. stay tuned.
Yes, but BMW has a serious track record in violating their own holly mantras over and over again: no diesels ever, no automatics in M's ever-never, no FWD ever... , no forced inductions ever since it ruins the gas response, bla-bla-bla-bla-bla.

BMW is the dumbest lying moron brand of all times. I knew that M would also fall for AWD soon, I just knew it when this guy was lying through his teeth back then stating they never would! Jack-ass!

They still produce some good cars, but why do they have to lie to us all the time and address us all of the time like retarded morons?

On the other hand, it seems rather logic that you consider AWD when you want to put down the power of a nuclear power plant on some square inches of rubber. I just can't get my head around why they keep lying to us?
Yeah not surprised, BMW in the end is still in the business of making money.

The US is the biggest market for M cars and if they see people prefer AWD E63 and RS7, they will come up with an AWD M5.

Like I said before in another thread, companies are like politicians, never trust what they say.
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      10-02-2013, 08:04 PM   #26
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What are you talking about? I do that all the time. Unfortunately most people don't have the time to follow me to the freeway. Lol!

I'll never buy an AWD M5 though.

I'll gladly keep getting beat by those Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8's from a dig. I'm one of those guys who would rather drive their M5 like this...

Can confirm, I seent him do it.
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I wonder if it would drift
I think it would judging by the youtube reviews of the 2014 E63 AMG 4MATIC S-Model .
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      10-02-2013, 08:25 PM   #28
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Yeah not surprised, BMW in the end is still in the business of making money.

The US is the biggest market for M cars and if they see people prefer AWD E63 and RS7, they will come up with an AWD M5.

Like I said before in another thread, companies are like politicians, never trust what they say.
I wouldn't mind they would, but why lie like a pathological cleptomaniac about everything you do and stand for???? Since THEY pretend they are a PURE brand with values and virtues, why are they so disloyal at the same time.

I really feel treated like a moron by those guys, and I don't like it at all... when they are in the business to make money, why offend your customers consistently and push them away from you with your dishonest expressions of so called values and mantras???

BMW marketing == pure rubbish.
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      10-02-2013, 08:56 PM   #29
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Yeah not surprised, BMW in the end is still in the business of making money.

The US is the biggest market for M cars and if they see people prefer AWD E63 and RS7, they will come up with an AWD M5.

Like I said before in another thread, companies are like politicians, never trust what they say.
I wouldn't mind they would, but why lie like a pathological cleptomaniac about everything you do and stand for???? Since THEY pretend they are a PURE brand with values and virtues, why are they so disloyal at the same time.

I really feel treated like a moron by those guys, and I don't like it at all... when they are in the business to make money, why offend your customers consistently and push them away from you with your dishonest expressions of so called values and mantras???

BMW marketing == pure rubbish.
Haha oh well, I guess I agree with what another poster said, BMW should just keep their mouth shut.
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      10-02-2013, 09:01 PM   #30
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The new BMW is that they'll do anything for money and increased sales.

Get used to it.
+1

Remember when the M division said they would never make an M suv? Then 2 years later the X5M & X6M comes out.

Expect to see an M3 & M4 with AWD in the near future.

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I wouldn't mind they would, but why lie like a pathological cleptomaniac about everything you do and stand for???? Since THEY pretend they are a PURE brand with values and virtues, why are they so disloyal at the same time.

I really feel treated like a moron by those guys, and I don't like it at all... when they are in the business to make money, why offend your customers consistently and push them away from you with your dishonest expressions of so called values and mantras???

BMW marketing == pure rubbish.
You didn't know that BMW M stands for Marketing?
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      10-02-2013, 09:12 PM   #31
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      10-02-2013, 09:19 PM   #32
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In NYC/NJ I literally can't find a non-X Drive F30 to test drive.
Funny. I've never actually seen an Xdrive F30 here in Texas. Except when my father in law drove his down from PA last year.
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      10-02-2013, 09:29 PM   #33
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Goodness, so from the multiple possibilities discussed, it seems the next M5 may be AWD and will not come in a manual option. I'm going to say that I dislike the direction BMW M is heading. They're selling out!!!!!

Before it was AMG and Audi trying to copy BMW, now it seems that BMW is checking off a checklist of similar options and specifications to match MERC and Audi. SAD!
OPTIONAL AWD
It will be about as optional as getting a NA M car.
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      10-02-2013, 09:57 PM   #34
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It is OBVIOUS how this will progress. Optional AWD for the next gen M5 and then AWD only for the gen after that.

Never say never, remember when BMW said not turbos? No FWD? No SUV, then no SUV ///M.

The list goes on.
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      10-02-2013, 09:58 PM   #35
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      10-02-2013, 10:00 PM   #36
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And the real leaders of the pack.. The Japanese, Nissan gtr! What's this you say turbo ? But you said you'd never go turbo yet here we are, what's this you say awd? Yyyyyup

BMW is not leading the pack any more in terms of pushing the edge in their cars. IMHO
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Choice of RWD vs AWD is not a bad thing. Then people will choose and BMW will react. If sales of next gen M5 are split then they will keep both options alive. If sales are mostly AWD then RWD may go away.
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      10-02-2013, 10:11 PM   #38
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I wouldn't mind they would, but why lie like a pathological cleptomaniac about everything you do and stand for???? Since THEY pretend they are a PURE brand with values and virtues, why are they so disloyal at the same time.

I really feel treated like a moron by those guys, and I don't like it at all... when they are in the business to make money, why offend your customers consistently and push them away from you with your dishonest expressions of so called values and mantras???

BMW marketing == pure rubbish.
Well, at least you're not bitter about it.
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That's great news ! But too bad it's still years to come and we are looking at the E63 4matic last week !
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I get why forum enthusiasts are upset from this.
I also get why they say never AWD on M4 even though they may still do it, otherwise people would wait for the AWD model.
I really don't dislike the idea of being able to put my power down. Seriously even with "only" 300hp I always have traction issues when tires are cold and conditions are not 100% perfect. Even on PSS.. And don't even mention winters...

As long as it's optional, I'm sure they'll make a great handling AWD car. And I'd certainly buy an AWD M4.
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      10-02-2013, 10:48 PM   #41
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Finally they opened the eyes to reality.With those torque and HP numbers, AWD option for the north must make sense.Purists can buy the RWD but do not disregard the advantage of AWD in the snowy north.

But more importantly don't make another porky pig the next time around with your M vehicles.
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      10-02-2013, 10:49 PM   #42
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as long as its still optional, i guess this is okay!
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Bullshit on the non-AWD M3/M4.
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I wouldn't mind they would, but why lie like a pathological cleptomaniac about everything you do and stand for???? Since THEY pretend they are a PURE brand with values and virtues, why are they so disloyal at the same time.

I really feel treated like a moron by those guys, and I don't like it at all... when they are in the business to make money, why offend your customers consistently and push them away from you with your dishonest expressions of so called values and mantras???

BMW marketing == pure rubbish.
Ah, "No Dogmas" remember? This is code for, "There are no dogmas when it comes to making a profit."
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