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      06-27-2011, 11:07 AM   #67
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I love the fact that that it smoked the Caddy CTS-V!
Ha ha funny you guys are acting like its earth shaking to have beaten an 09 Production CTS-V by a mere 4 seconds. I think that speaks more to the CTS-V's capability than it does the 11 M5. CTS-V one mean machine no matter how you look at it. I love BMW too, but lets atleast be honest and acknowledge others. So lets just compare apples to apples, shall we? That CTS-V would have left skid marks all over an 09 M5. Nough said.
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      06-27-2011, 11:10 AM   #68
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Finally no more V10 crying here
Great new engine, great times.
Almost 20 sec over E60 - huge improvement
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      06-27-2011, 11:41 AM   #69
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preachhhhhh... I own one..... Simple tune and exhaust, basically nothing i've encountered accelerates like a tuned sti.... Just sayin!!
You didn't encounter a lot of real cars... with simply a cobb and turbo back you could get smoked by a lot of car... didn't try those fat AMG Mercedes, Z06 or even a mazdaspeed with the same mods could give you a run for your money

Don't get me wrong , I love the STi. I owned one for 6 years and got it to a full stage 4 car with more than 500 whp and it still is one of my preferred car... (I changed it only because I wanted to get something more finished than this. They really should start changing the 15K dashboard on STi and something different for this line...)

What I wanted to tell is that with a simple remap of boost/timing and fuel you get about 80-100 whp depending on gas and you have a lot of cars out there that match it up but as for as bang for the money they are awesome track car!

The STis are really fast in corners but fast in straight.
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      06-27-2011, 11:53 AM   #70
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They really are great cars just a lot of people think they are of a superior race with a BMW key in their hands
I don't know, drive an STI and then a 1 series and it's pretty clear the BMW is far superior as an all around car especially in terms of its quality but the STI is one of the most fun cars out there, I never pass up on the opportunity to get behind the wheel of one.
preachhhhhh... I own one..... Simple tune and exhaust, basically nothing i've encountered accelerates like a tuned sti.... Just sayin!!
Preaching to the choir here. I own both (well a tuned WRX) and the subaru is much more fun to drive, however, the bimmer is a lot faster.
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      06-27-2011, 01:18 PM   #71
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I wish we could get an updated e92 M3 time around the track. Wasn't it '07 when the time was posted?
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      06-27-2011, 02:14 PM   #72
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that was tuned, i read about it
+1!

That sti was tuned... Far from stock.
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      06-27-2011, 03:12 PM   #73
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When I think M5, I compare it with the Panamera Turbo/S not the CTS-V. I'm glad it beat the Panamera Turbo Sport Chrono. It will be even better if it beats the Panamera Turbo S too.
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      06-27-2011, 10:54 PM   #75
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When I think M5, I compare it with the Panamera Turbo/S not the CTS-V. I'm glad it beat the Panamera Turbo Sport Chrono. It will be even better if it beats the Panamera Turbo S too.
As good as the lap time was for the M5 in isolation I was honestly expecting better. For those who say good for its weight, I say the porsche does it better.

The panamera turbo with chrono is quoted there as 100kg heavier than the M5, AND it has a 60hp deficit to the M5 560 vs 500hp. Yet despite being heavier and less powerful, its lap time is only 1 second off the M5.

Where did that 100kg and 60hp go? Is it only good for 1 second?
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      06-28-2011, 06:58 AM   #76
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As good as the lap time was for the M5 in isolation I was honestly expecting better. For those who say good for its weight, I say the porsche does it better.

The panamera turbo with chrono is quoted there as 100kg heavier than the M5, AND it has a 60hp deficit to the M5 560 vs 500hp. Yet despite being heavier and less powerful, its lap time is only 1 second off the M5.

Where did that 100kg and 60hp go? Is it only good for 1 second?
I know nothing much about the nurburgring but 1 sec is a hell of a lot in terms of a gap. Dont underestimate the difference cause the way I see it, that is a bus length...which is an ass whooping in my eyes.
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I know nothing much about the nurburgring but 1 sec is a hell of a lot in terms of a gap. Dont underestimate the difference cause the way I see it, that is a bus length...which is an ass whooping in my eyes.
In Formula 1 terms it's a world of a gap, agreed.
At the Nordschleife (22.8kms) it's nothing actually.

But anyway, my guess is the F10 M5 weighs much more than a Panamera Turbo S irl.

We'll see.
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      06-29-2011, 07:48 PM   #78
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remember, the caddy is a based on the 638 hp ls9 (detuned). there is room for more out of the V.
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I more or less agree with shift. But one of my neighbours has a Panamera, a black one. And though I find Porkers in general okay, I find a Panamera disgusting to look at, even if it goes 7:19(LOL) at the Ring, it's a no go for me, sorry. At the end of the day I only like a GT3/2RS. The rest, not for me....

Anyway my friend has a 997 GT3 MkII Clubsport, but also has a 1M right now, this is taken outside our hometown, he will trade in the Porker later this year, beacuse he thinks he can handle it right now

The Porker first at the Ring, half a year ago:
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And here at Assen Moto GP track(where we had Moto GP last weekend) also a few months ago:




The new 1M near our hometown:



I think he likes the 1M a tad better atm, he told me yesterday...But what does Andre know about driving anyway.

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turbo s will go for what? 160? more? so 60% more for an extra few seconds? and only 4 seats. makes the f10 look like a value doesnt it?
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turbo s will go for what? 160? more? so 60% more for an extra few seconds? and only 4 seats. makes the f10 look like a value doesnt it?
This "value" or "bang for the buck" argument only matters to those that can't truly afford the higher priced car in any discussion.
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This "value" or "bang for the buck" argument only matters to those that can't truly afford the higher priced car in any discussion.
Fair enough. But I'd rather own a 458 than a Veyron.
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      07-02-2011, 11:49 AM   #83
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      07-05-2011, 06:46 AM   #84
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This "value" or "bang for the buck" argument only matters to those that can't truly afford the higher priced car in any discussion.
and what if they can't? what if 115 is all they have to spend on a car? doesn't seem like hey are giving much up at all. in fact, they are gaining a whole seat and can buy a 1 series M for the weekend
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