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I know this isn't the same but I saw a C63S AMG in frozen silver (or whatever MB calls it) today. Looked inside and out carefully. That car is just badass. Put together real well. The interior had yellow stitching and carbon everywhere. Didn't like that silly iPad screen though. Outside the body had just the right amount of muscle with black accents. MB is making some real nice ones these days. If these cars are any indication of future for BMW, the new M5 should be unreal. Might be a big assumption there??
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My CL65, E63, E63 Wagon, CLS63, and SL63 all had some form of air suspension. All were Airmatic except the SL63 which was ABC in nature and even that car was soft and it had the optional AMG advanced dampeners (more stiff than a normal SL63).
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I owned a M5 F10 in the past, a CLS 63 PP RWD AMG 2012 prior to the M5, and an E63 4 Matic.
Realistic comparing, AMG was on BMW M's ass on all these cars. The latest car I have bought was a M6 Gran Coupe (don't think I am rich or nothing, I just bought it at an insanely low price). The E 63 in my eyes had a lot of advantages over the M5, but a couple of niggles such as the equipment list was worse for the Brazilian package when compared to the M5, and the transmission left a lot to be desired. Lastly the suspension was exceedingly comfortable, but in the hardest settings were still too soft for Trackdays and highspeed cornering. Nevertheless if Merc fixed the gearbox, improved the traction system in the AWD (which was pretty good though) and made the suspension harsher in the harshest settings, BMW M would be fucked. Seeing the latest E 63 AMG S, the C 63 Coupe AMG S, and the AMG GTS, BMW M better step up their game, a lot to beat AMG. The CLS 63 had an even better set up as it was sharper and more precise (although RWD, the whole car was considerably stiffer). The only major let down was the tranny, and putting power down (although M RWD cars have a hard time too). The CLS 63 is only fractionally worse than the M6, the M6 takes the cake for me due to its awesome interior, fantastic transmission and great performance (handling and power). The CLS 63 was fractionally worse on handling and on acceleration over a 100 kph, and the transmission was far from the crispiness and precision of the M6 from A to B. Nevertheless it was remarkably close. I highly doubt that the M5 G30 AWD will be a lot better than the E63, I believe they will be equally good. I see a lot of Bimmer Fanboys in the WEB talking shit on how AMG is a lot worse, little do they know, that AMG has steps up their game a lot with every generation of new cars. Last edited by CARMASTERRACE; 12-03-2016 at 07:17 AM.. |
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I'm digging out of a rock here. Will watch these reviews. When I was at the MB event and sat in the E43, I was not impressed. Rear proportions looked all wrong and the interior had something wrong - squeaky seats or something. Rear leg room was more.
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Car and Driver has their review out...didn't realize this iteration of the car weighs 4500lbs!
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But that being said, if next gen M5 doesn't have AWD, I'm getting E63 AMG S+.
The Sumer video was pretty good.
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The weight is 1875kg which is very close to the BMW E60 M5 weight of 1855kg. It's almost 400 lbs lighter than the previous E63.
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