Looking at X5M 2015/16?! Any insights!?

soooma · 05-26-2016, 09:39 PM

Getting close to my M5 lease end early next year and already getting close to allowed miles limit in a few months so I actually might lease or buy another car while I still have this M5 and nothing seems to interest me especially with NC winters all the more brutal as of late

and I am getting sick of traction issues with M5 and bogging down frequently killing all the fun for me at times!
I enjoyed this car so much and still do but I will probably come back to it when AWD and yes I know RWD can be more fun with the happy fish tail and all but for pragmatically for a daily driver and bad winters looking ahead with Sports tires and my only car simply not the perfect package and somehow the X5M might solve this problem!!

Any comments ?!
I have never driven X5M but had X5 50i twice and I enjoyed the AWD Rush !!
Other alternatives
1. RS7 (Hate rear looks)
2. Panamera Turbo S (Getting too stale)
3. E63 S AMG
4. I have even entertained Audi Q7 2017 LOL a V8 Twinturbo for these is overdue !! What's the equivalent to X5 50i that Audi has to offer?!!!

5. Cayenne Turbo S?!
I am going nutzzz
Looks like i may as well end up with another more equipped M5 F10 with Performance Exhaust and all the bells and whistles

nynd · 05-26-2016, 10:12 PM

Try and E63S... just take one for a spin.

soooma · 05-26-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nynd

Try and E63S... just take one for a spin.

Not sure why not growing on me!
No HUd too and MCT in lieu of a proper DCT!
But not totally out of the picture !
Thanks

M5Beast_NYC · 05-26-2016, 11:25 PM

When I dynod my car, there was an x5m there too. It put down less power than the M5 probably due to the drivetrain loss. The x5m is a good contender but you will be loosing some handling due to the added weight. Maybe check out the x6m. It shoukd be more sportier than the x5m

soooma · 05-26-2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Beast_NYC

When I dynod my car, there was an x5m there too. It put down less power than the M5 probably due to the drivetrain loss. The x5m is a good contender but you will be loosing some handling due to the added weight. Maybe check out the x6m. It shoukd be more sportier than the x5m

I know
But it has it's perks too! With AWD and more panoramic higher view!
And
man don't you love those seats !!

SFT33 · 05-27-2016, 04:38 AM

I'd at least drive the E63s. Great handler, AWD and very, very fast. Transmission is fine. Get it in wagon form and you have the ultimate sleeper.

GladiatorOwner · 05-27-2016, 07:17 AM

I just tested one last week. It drove very similar to my M5 (owned a '13 but flipped it for my M6). I couldn't believe how well it handled. The only obvious difference is that you are higher up off ground since it's a SUV. Or is that SAV? Lol.

It was only a quick test drive on streets and parkways but you could tell it was a monster and the shifts were flawless. It impressed me enough that I decided it will be the next M for me due to livin in the NE and next whip should be 4w.

At least that's my current thinking. Ha

NightM · 05-27-2016, 07:53 AM

X5m are good but will only give you 680whp. Then drivetrain malfunction when you cross that power level. Owner got pure turbos and jb on top lasted a good 7seconds on track and blew the motor. Lol. Shouldve listen to precision tuning. They told him x5m are not meant to make power due to xdrive function.

But a simple tune should be fine and plenty for the car. Its a fun car. Id go with X5M

soooma · 05-27-2016, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SFT33

I'd at least drive the E63s. Great handler, AWD and very, very fast. Transmission is fine. Get it in wagon form and you have the ultimate sleeper.

I will
I must I guess

soooma · 05-27-2016, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GladiatorOwner

I just tested one last week. It drove very similar to my M5 (owned a '13 but flipped it for my M6). I couldn't believe how well it handled. The only obvious difference is that you are higher up off ground since it's a SUV. Or is that SAV? Lol.

It was only a quick test drive on streets and parkways but you could tell it was a monster and the shifts were flawless. It impressed me enough that I decided it will be the next M for me due to livin in the NE and next whip should be 4w.

At least that's my current thinking. Ha

See I am not the only one who'd enjoy an AWD ///M

soooma · 05-27-2016, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by F10M5Manual

X5m are good but will only give you 680whp. Then drivetrain malfunction when you cross that power level. Owner got pure turbos and jb on top lasted a good 7seconds on track and blew the motor. Lol. Shouldve listen to precision tuning. They told him x5m are not meant to make power due to xdrive function.

But a simple tune should be fine and plenty for the car. Its a fun car. Id go with X5M

I never tune my cars because Inrarely keep them long enough to justify the investment !
X5M seems to garner a lot of attention as of late with its new interior accoutrements!!

NightM · 05-27-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by soooma

Quote:

Originally Posted by F10M5Manual

X5m are good but will only give you 680whp. Then drivetrain malfunction when you cross that power level. Owner got pure turbos and jb on top lasted a good 7seconds on track and blew the motor. Lol. Shouldve listen to precision tuning. They told him x5m are not meant to make power due to xdrive function.

But a simple tune should be fine and plenty for the car. Its a fun car. Id go with X5M

I never tune my cars because Inrarely keep them long enough to justify the investment !
X5M seems to garner a lot of attention as of late with its new interior accoutrements!!

X5m would be good them

nynd · 05-27-2016, 09:52 AM

Also - if you want more hp & torque.. easily done (for E63S)

RENNtech ECU Upgrade for 212 - E 63 AMG (S) BiTurbo 2014+ Facelift. Up to 669HP + 734LB-FT. Gains: up to +119HP & +203LB-FT

NightM · 05-27-2016, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynd

Also - if you want more hp & torque.. easily done (for E63S)

RENNtech ECU Upgrade for 212 - E 63 AMG (S) BiTurbo 2014+ Facelift. Up to 669HP + 734LB-FT. Gains: up to +119HP & +203LB-FT

The renntech posted numbers are not true actually.
If you dyno them they actually gain like 30-50whp only. Lol

NightM · 05-27-2016, 10:48 AM

Heres what Precision Made more than Renntech (which is BR Tune Also ) ill find the actualy dyno whp on renntech

573/678 whp/trq

stealth.pilot · 05-27-2016, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

Not sure why not growing on me!
No HUd too and MCT in lieu of a proper DCT!
But not totally out of the picture !
Thanks

Sooma - you haven't had that blue M5 that long. If I was you I would hold it for another year, and in the meantime order the 2018 E63S. The 2018 version will have HUD, a 9 speed DCT and lots of other goodies - plus it will have traction.

I am going to get either an E43 or E63 for my wife to replace her C300 as soon as released. Already put a deposit at dealer to be first in line.

Alpine300zhp · 05-27-2016, 02:10 PM

I had an E70 x5m and I plan to get another one soon. If you like having an SUV, then this is the SUV to get. I tried every possible SUV before I got my x5m and the x5m was the best (tried RR Supercharged, Porsche Cayenne GTS and MB ML63 AMG). If you need or want AWD, you will like the x5m. It is a very different car than the m5, but I enjoyed mine while I had it. When my m4 goes away, I plan to get into a 2017 or 2018 x5m or x6m.

soooma · 05-27-2016, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F10M5Manual

Heres what Precision Made more than Renntech (which is BR Tune Also ) ill find the actualy dyno whp on renntech

573/678 whp/trq

Nice gains still
Does it VOID THE WARRANTY?!

soooma · 05-27-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

I had an E70 x5m and I plan to get another one soon. If you like having an SUV, then this is the SUV to get. I tried every possible SUV before I got my x5m and the x5m was the best (tried RR Supercharged, Porsche Cayenne GTS and MB ML63 AMG). If you need or want AWD, you will like the x5m. It is a very different car than the m5, but I enjoyed mine while I had it. When my m4 goes away, I plan to get into a 2017 or 2018 x5m or x6m.

Thanks
That's the type of feedback I'm looking for!

cjackson1906 · 05-27-2016, 04:27 PM

Soooma - I have both the M5 and X5M. I didn't think the X5M would be fun to drive and that the interior would be blah...fast forward...I absolutely love it! My M5 is azurite black on black, so I went the total opposite with the X5M - mineral white, mugello red interior and carbon fiber trim...so damn sexy! Everyone that has been inside the X5M has said, "This shit is hot!"

Yes, you definitely get a different feel from the AWD but they did a really good job with the ZF transmission and it shifts really well. Also, sitting up high means that it will not handle like your M5 or any other sports sedan/coupe that's lower to the ground. However, the space and practicality make up for the other things to me b/c I don't track my cars. Bottom line: there seems to be people on this site that want/like sports cars that you can track or drive like track cars. If that's you, then the X5M is not for you. If you like fast, nimble, luxurious and comfortable cars/SUVs and are indifferent about tracking it, then go test drive the X5M and be prepared to order one afterwards. If you're ever in the DFW area, give me a shout and you can see for yourself.

soooma · 05-27-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cjackson1906

Soooma - I have both the M5 and X5M. I didn't think the X5M would be fun to drive and that the interior would be blah...fast forward...I absolutely love it! My M5 is azurite black on black, so I went the total opposite with the X5M - mineral white, mugello red interior and carbon fiber trim...so damn sexy! Everyone that has been inside the X5M has said, "This shit is hot!"

Yes, you definitely get a different feel from the AWD but they did a really good job with the ZF transmission and it shifts really well. Also, sitting up high means that it will not handle like your M5 or any other sports sedan/coupe that's lower to the ground. However, the space and practicality make up for the other things to me b/c I don't track my cars. Bottom line: there seems to be people on this site that want/like sports cars that you can track or drive like track cars. If that's you, then the X5M is not for you. If you like fast, nimble, luxurious and comfortable cars/SUVs and are indifferent about tracking it, then go test drive the X5M and be prepared to order one afterwards. If you're ever in the DFW area, give me a shout and you can see for yourself.

Terrific post bro
Thank you
You got me more excited about X5M
My wife has an Audi Q7 and that's my only problem with having another SAV/SUV

And I am really interested in M6 convertible too!
I am sure a pleasure to slice roads in it!!

Copasetic222 · 05-27-2016, 08:17 PM

I've driven the X5M and, as has been mentioned, it's great. But its different. For your needs, not in a bad way.
I have owned two Porsche Cayenne Turbo S's. Don't know if they currently make a Turbo S these days or just a Turbo, but you should drive one of those as well.

05-26-2016, 09:39 PM	#1
soooma ///MD 1378 Rep 3,998 Posts Drives: M5 F90 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NC iTrader: (1)	Looking at X5M 2015/16?! Any insights!? Getting close to my M5 lease end early next year and already getting close to allowed miles limit in a few months so I actually might lease or buy another car while I still have this M5 and nothing seems to interest me especially with NC winters all the more brutal as of late and I am getting sick of traction issues with M5 and bogging down frequently killing all the fun for me at times! I enjoyed this car so much and still do but I will probably come back to it when AWD and yes I know RWD can be more fun with the happy fish tail and all but for pragmatically for a daily driver and bad winters looking ahead with Sports tires and my only car simply not the perfect package and somehow the X5M might solve this problem!! Any comments ?! I have never driven X5M but had X5 50i twice and I enjoyed the AWD Rush !! Other alternatives 1. RS7 (Hate rear looks) 2. Panamera Turbo S (Getting too stale) 3. E63 S AMG 4. I have even entertained Audi Q7 2017 LOL a V8 Twinturbo for these is overdue !! What's the equivalent to X5 50i that Audi has to offer?!!! 5. Cayenne Turbo S?! I am going nutzzz Looks like i may as well end up with another more equipped M5 F10 with Performance Exhaust and all the bells and whistles Attached Images __________________ Life is too short even if you live to be a 100!! As what really counts is the few moments we are really happy and excited! -Kids, Family, Success, Career, Helping others stand on their feet (Paying back and sometimes forward), Travel, Seeking the truth, Reading, Hobbies eg ///Madness - Last edited by soooma; 05-27-2016 at 08:37 PM..
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nynd Captain 175 Rep 604 Posts Drives: X7 M8 Convert Join Date: May 2012 Location: Canada (Toronto) iTrader: (3)	Try and E63S... just take one for a spin.
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M5Beast_NYC Major 158 Rep 1,314 Posts Drives: 15 M5 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: NYC iTrader: (6)	When I dynod my car, there was an x5m there too. It put down less power than the M5 probably due to the drivetrain loss. The x5m is a good contender but you will be loosing some handling due to the added weight. Maybe check out the x6m. It shoukd be more sportier than the x5m
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SFT33 Lieutenant 275 Rep 410 Posts Drives: E28, E34, E60 & F10 M5s Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Annapolis, MD iTrader: (0)	E63s I'd at least drive the E63s. Great handler, AWD and very, very fast. Transmission is fine. Get it in wagon form and you have the ultimate sleeper. __________________ 22 BMW F90 M5, 21 MERCEDES E63S WAGON, 18 BMW R9T RACER,16 BMW F10 M5, 09 BMW HP2 SPORT, 06 BMW E60 M5, 91 BMW E34 M5, 88 BMW E28 M5
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GladiatorOwner Captain 177 Rep 643 Posts Drives: 22 M4C Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	I just tested one last week. It drove very similar to my M5 (owned a '13 but flipped it for my M6). I couldn't believe how well it handled. The only obvious difference is that you are higher up off ground since it's a SUV. Or is that SAV? Lol. It was only a quick test drive on streets and parkways but you could tell it was a monster and the shifts were flawless. It impressed me enough that I decided it will be the next M for me due to livin in the NE and next whip should be 4w. At least that's my current thinking. Ha
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NightM Lieutenant Colonel 450 Rep 1,519 Posts Drives: Bmw Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	X5m are good but will only give you 680whp. Then drivetrain malfunction when you cross that power level. Owner got pure turbos and jb on top lasted a good 7seconds on track and blew the motor. Lol. Shouldve listen to precision tuning. They told him x5m are not meant to make power due to xdrive function. But a simple tune should be fine and plenty for the car. Its a fun car. Id go with X5M
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nynd Captain 175 Rep 604 Posts Drives: X7 M8 Convert Join Date: May 2012 Location: Canada (Toronto) iTrader: (3)	Also - if you want more hp & torque.. easily done (for E63S) RENNtech ECU Upgrade for 212 - E 63 AMG (S) BiTurbo 2014+ Facelift. Up to 669HP + 734LB-FT. Gains: up to +119HP & +203LB-FT
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NightM Lieutenant Colonel 450 Rep 1,519 Posts Drives: Bmw Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Heres what Precision Made more than Renntech (which is BR Tune Also ) ill find the actualy dyno whp on renntech 573/678 whp/trq Attached Images
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Alpine300zhp Lieutenant Colonel 1448 Rep 1,719 Posts Drives: 24 M4 Comp RWD Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	I had an E70 x5m and I plan to get another one soon. If you like having an SUV, then this is the SUV to get. I tried every possible SUV before I got my x5m and the x5m was the best (tried RR Supercharged, Porsche Cayenne GTS and MB ML63 AMG). If you need or want AWD, you will like the x5m. It is a very different car than the m5, but I enjoyed mine while I had it. When my m4 goes away, I plan to get into a 2017 or 2018 x5m or x6m. __________________ ~ 24 M4 Comp ~ Prior BMW's - Too many to list here (27)
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cjackson1906 Private First Class 42 Rep 190 Posts Drives: 2018 Alpina B6 GC & 2019 M5C Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW M5 [0.00]	Soooma - I have both the M5 and X5M. I didn't think the X5M would be fun to drive and that the interior would be blah...fast forward...I absolutely love it! My M5 is azurite black on black, so I went the total opposite with the X5M - mineral white, mugello red interior and carbon fiber trim...so damn sexy! Everyone that has been inside the X5M has said, "This shit is hot!" Yes, you definitely get a different feel from the AWD but they did a really good job with the ZF transmission and it shifts really well. Also, sitting up high means that it will not handle like your M5 or any other sports sedan/coupe that's lower to the ground. However, the space and practicality make up for the other things to me b/c I don't track my cars. Bottom line: there seems to be people on this site that want/like sports cars that you can track or drive like track cars. If that's you, then the X5M is not for you. If you like fast, nimble, luxurious and comfortable cars/SUVs and are indifferent about tracking it, then go test drive the X5M and be prepared to order one afterwards. If you're ever in the DFW area, give me a shout and you can see for yourself. __________________ 2019 M5 Comp; 2018 Alpina B6 GC; 2019 M4 CP (gone); 2018 X3 M40i (gone); 2015 M5 Comp Pkg (gone); 2016 X5M (gone); 2013 650 xDrive Coupe M-Sport (gone); 2013 F10 M5 (gone); 2011 550i (gone)
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Copasetic222 Private 3 Rep 56 Posts Drives: Alpina B7 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: FL and MN iTrader: (0)	I've driven the X5M and, as has been mentioned, it's great. But its different. For your needs, not in a bad way. I have owned two Porsche Cayenne Turbo S's. Don't know if they currently make a Turbo S these days or just a Turbo, but you should drive one of those as well.
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