Competition package

RealStig · 02-28-2014, 06:16 AM

Is it trup that cp wheels are cast wheels? They are 5 lbs heavier each and cost less than the regular 20" wheels? I dont understand how this can be since the words "competition" and "cast wheel" usually don't go hand in hand. I'm very disappointed now, last thing I want is 20 inch wheels to crack. Forged wheels are so much better, I dont have a single crack in any of my M3 wheels after hitting so many potholes.

EdM5 · 02-28-2014, 07:59 AM

Unfortunately true.
They look great IRL so that's why I use 'em as a winterset.

mwlmd · 02-28-2014, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RealStig

Is it trup that cp wheels are cast wheels? They are 5 lbs heavier each and cost less than the regular 20" wheels? I dont understand how this can be since the words "competition" and "cast wheel" usually don't go hand in hand. I'm very disappointed now, last thing I want is 20 inch wheels to crack. Forged wheels are so much better, I dont have a single crack in any of my M3 wheels after hitting so many potholes.

I think the E9x M3 ZCP wheels were cast as well. The standard 19" wheel option was forged... similar weird scenario.

M5essex · 02-28-2014, 10:37 AM

that really is disappointing. why would BMW do that? improve steering, handling, increase hp and then add on 10kg more weight through 'competition' pack wheels..?

DrewM5 · 02-28-2014, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EdM5

Unfortunately true.
They look great IRL so that's why I use 'em as a winterset.

I have done the same thing. The 601's are shod with my winter tires and my HRE P101's or an their way to me know for my summer settup.

RealStig · 02-28-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DrewM5

I have done the same thing. The 601's are shod with my winter tires and my HRE P101's or an their way to me know for my summer settup.

Still, I mean paying 7.3k for competition package and using the 20" wheels for snow tires is a bit too much in my opinion. Snow or summer, the cast wheels, especially this size, is a big no-no. Look at the thread I linked and how the guy already has cracks after 200 miles. You don't really have to drive this car hard to have that problem either.

Leveraged Sellout · 02-28-2014, 09:08 PM

Really do not understand the thought on this, very disappointed. If it was up to me I'd keep the 343s with the Comp Package

JS919 · 02-28-2014, 09:18 PM

My M5 CP was ordered from the factory with the black 343M wheels. They are a no cost option in combination with comp package. Best wheel option for the M5 in my opinion.

signes · 03-01-2014, 12:28 AM

Comp package wheels for the E46 / CSL and E9x were all cast while the stock 19" wheels like mentioned above were forged.

soooma · 03-01-2014, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonas

My M5 CP was ordered from the factory with the black 343M wheels. They are a no cost option in combination with comp package. Best wheel option for the M5 in my opinion.

Agree
Love them mkre everytime i look at them and I do believe they make the car feel lighter too!

Bluehorseshoe · 03-01-2014, 04:29 AM

You can't make sense out of this decision by BMW (other than not spending the time and money).

I reluctantly went with the 601s and am happy so far. The only advantage is that I like the look a little better on darker cars. Almost went with the 343Ms and CCBs to save weight where it counts but then drove one with both and really couldn't tell the difference under normal driving conditions.

I don't track the car and believe that this would be a great reason to go for the lighter wheel and brake options.

I live in northeastern US and am also concerned about bending wheels. Time will tell. My last BMW was a 750i with 20" Style 32 wheels. I believe these wheels were also cast. This was my daily driver for almost 4 years, and I never bent a wheel (and do remember going over some nasty potholes).

elitex · 03-01-2014, 08:55 AM

I know the comp rims in E9x M3 are flow formed which are much stronger than cast wheels. Still not as good as forged.

I am not sure if 601's are flow formed or not.

savela · 03-01-2014, 10:07 AM

First set of forged wheels I've owned. Besides the design I think forged wheels look sweet up close. That machined look can't be beat.

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M5essex Lieutenant Colonel 642 Rep 1,700 Posts Drives: RR sport SVR, Vent S, 650s spi Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Essex UK iTrader: (0)	that really is disappointing. why would BMW do that? improve steering, handling, increase hp and then add on 10kg more weight through 'competition' pack wheels..?
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Leveraged Sellout Private 5 Rep 72 Posts Drives: 1988 535i Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (0)	Really do not understand the thought on this, very disappointed. If it was up to me I'd keep the 343s with the Comp Package
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JS919 First Lieutenant 97 Rep 380 Posts Drives: M3 CS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Henderson, NV iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 CS [0.00]	My M5 CP was ordered from the factory with the black 343M wheels. They are a no cost option in combination with comp package. Best wheel option for the M5 in my opinion.
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signes Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,318 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Living at (almost...) 9k iTrader: (5)	Comp package wheels for the E46 / CSL and E9x were all cast while the stock 19" wheels like mentioned above were forged. __________________ GT3 RS \| Desperately seeking the next great M car...
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Bluehorseshoe Lieutenant 305 Rep 497 Posts Drives: M5 CS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Fairfield County, CT iTrader: (0)	You can't make sense out of this decision by BMW (other than not spending the time and money). I reluctantly went with the 601s and am happy so far. The only advantage is that I like the look a little better on darker cars. Almost went with the 343Ms and CCBs to save weight where it counts but then drove one with both and really couldn't tell the difference under normal driving conditions. I don't track the car and believe that this would be a great reason to go for the lighter wheel and brake options. I live in northeastern US and am also concerned about bending wheels. Time will tell. My last BMW was a 750i with 20" Style 32 wheels. I believe these wheels were also cast. This was my daily driver for almost 4 years, and I never bent a wheel (and do remember going over some nasty potholes).
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