Full F10 M5 Interior Spied

[mtechnik3]

Can't wait to see the final finished product. My hunch is DCT only for the M5. The dash, headliner, and wheels look great in these spy pics.

[BenTrovato]

I'm impressed... this 5 series is shaping up to look really sharp.

[docjay]

This Will Surely Be One Awsome Machine!!!!arty0 030:

[Canuckistan]

Originally Posted by FStop7

I love the center console design of the F10.

The F10 M5 is shaping up to be more subtle - like the E39 and E34.

Am I the only one who finds the centre console way too high and obtrusive? When I sit in the F10 it painfully pokes my right shin.

[Alpin3_F30]

I still dont understand why the M5 doesnt have this shape under the headlights but the M-sport does. terrible mistake right there anyone agree? this would make it look more aggressive for the most part.

[crackberry]

so far, so good.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by maxnix

Very little visual distinction from the stock 5. This is not good.

I am not buying. But I think the real problem is the sheer bulk of the F10. A decade or 15 years ago this would have been a 7er. It's just too large to be a sports sedan anymore.

And it will not be available in manual.

[TonyMeister]

Originally Posted by thebmw

And it will not be available in manual.

So *effing* what? The M5 E60 was sold with a manual and it was criticized, slower than the M5 with SMG and nobody bought it. BMW learned a lesson with the failure of the manual M5 E60: Don't listen to the so-called internet forum purists, because they are full of s***.

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by TonyMeister

So *effing* what? The M5 E60 was sold with a manual and it was criticized, slower than the M5 with SMG and nobody bought it. BMW learned a lesson with the failure of the manual M5 E60: Don't listen to the so-called internet forum purists, because they are full of s***.

Full Auto would suit me Tony, my M3 was M-DCT and great.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by TonyMeister

So *effing* what? The M5 E60 was sold with a manual and it was criticized, slower than the M5 with SMG and nobody bought it. BMW learned a lesson with the failure of the manual M5 E60: Don't listen to the so-called internet forum purists, because they are full of s***.

Yes, you are correct that BMW is not offering a manual since virtually no one bought one. But, it is sad to see that manuals are not being offered by many brands now on their "sports" cars. I'm not "listening" to the purists...I am one.

There is a complete disconnect from the driving experience with an auto tranny or those flappy little things called paddle shifters. There is no doubt though, that today's dual clutch/PDK/SMG/F1 shifters/whatever you want to call them, are faster than any human.

[footie]

Originally Posted by thebmw

Yes, you are correct that BMW is not offering a manual since virtually no one bought one. But, it is sad to see that manuals are not being offered by many brands now on their "sports" cars. I'm not "listening" to the purists...I am one.

There is a complete disconnect from the driving experience with an auto tranny or those flappy little things called paddle shifters. There is no doubt though, that today's dual clutch/PDK/SMG/F1 shifters/whatever you want to call them, are faster than any human.

And it's the thought of no manual and it's lack of connection to the driving experience that's of such concern to you? Have you forgot about the fact it's got electronic steering and weighs 2 ton which are kind of more important to feeling connected and involving than anything else. Accept that this car isn't a sportscar and then all other issues melt away ..... well apart from the fact that it might have issues getting all the power to the ground efficiently.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by footie

And it's the thought of no manual and it's lack of connection to the driving experience that's of such concern to you? Have you forgot about the fact it's got electronic steering and weighs 2 ton which are kind of more important to feeling connected and involving than anything else. Accept that this car isn't a sportscar and then all other issues melt away ..... well apart from the fact that it might have issues getting all the power to the ground efficiently.

Just because it has 4 doors, doesn't mean it is not a "sports" car. At what point is it a sports car? I would think most would believe that 500hp+ would qualify! So I don't really know what your definition of sports car is, but I highly doubt the M5 is aimed at aunt Martha who is 84 yrs old and is used to driving her 1986 Buick (which also has 4 doors and is an automatic).

The M5 does NOT weigh 2 tons. In either case, what mass produced cars don't weigh between 3500-4200 pounds nowadays? Also, regardless of the tech in the car, a seasoned driver definitely notices weight differences...that's pretty basic. And that has nothing to do with auto vs manual so I'm not really sure how your point is relevant.

Every car has some element of assisted steering. That has nothing to do with the engine or transmission. So again, I don't see how your point is irrelevant.

Am I the only person on this thread that appreciates the subtle (and blatant) differences between a manual and automatic? It appears so. If this thread is a microcosm of 5 series and M5 buyers, BMW must have made the right choice in not offering a manual option! I am shocked though.

[footie]

Originally Posted by thebmw

Just because it has 4 doors, doesn't mean it is not a "sports" car. At what point is it a sports car? I would think most would believe that 500hp+ would qualify! So I don't really know what your definition of sports car is, but I highly doubt the M5 is aimed at aunt Martha who is 84 yrs old and is used to driving her 1986 Buick (which also has 4 doors and is an automatic).

]The M5 does NOT weigh 2 tons. In either case, what mass produced cars don't weigh between 3500-4200 pounds nowadays? Also, regardless of the tech in the car, a seasoned driver definitely notices weight differences...that's pretty basic. And that has nothing to do with auto vs manual so I'm not really sure how your point is relevant.

2 ton or near enough 2 ton is what this car will end up, especially when the 550i is already 1905kg and the M5 will have more kit, beefier brakes and drivetrain with probably DCT which again is a little heavier than an proper auto.

Originally Posted by thebmw

Every car has some element of assisted steering. That has nothing to do with the engine or transmission. So again, I don't see how your point is irrelevant.

It might not directly have anything to do with engine or transmission but it does have an effect on your beloved 'connection' you were going on about and electronic is generally worse.

Originally Posted by thebmw

Am I the only person on this thread that appreciates the subtle (and blatant) differences between a manual and automatic? It appears so. If this thread is a microcosm of 5 series and M5 buyers, BMW must have made the right choice in not offering a manual option! I am shocked though.

Yes I do think you are in a very small minority because the rest of us see the M5 for what it truly is, and it ain't no sportscar.