UPDATE!!! German tuner LEIB Engineering cracked the F-series DME last week!!!

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by M-bitious

Full tank, one passenger (2 persons at 185kg), 10 kg luggage, slighty damp road, zero slope. I will try again when dry and just me behind the wheel. I would be totally impressed with a 5.9. We'll see. Only the Koenigsegg, La Ferrari and the Veyron can beat that.
I used a vbox, what did you use?

Vbox sport 20hz. Also do a standing start ,would be nice to see a 1/4 mile speed . This is my 1/4 and half mile from the same run and the 60-130 mph for us yanks was 7.36 sec .

[M-bitious]

I see a 7.54 for 60-130

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by M-bitious

I see a 7.54 for 60-130

Sorry I didn't post the right screenshot . I had two 7.3x and one 7.5x , missed a shift a bit on the 7.5 /1/4 mile run .

[Boss330]

After som questions and accusations on the Leib thread over on the F8x forums (that's a tough crowd BTW), I looked up Leib's Facebook page and found this:

https://www.facebook.com/Leibengineering?fref=ts

++ News ++
F10 M5 development has already begun - what will happen:

- enginedestroying, not satisfying additional modul will be removed and replaced through the LEIB Software on the both original ECU's with a perfect Setting
- vmax will be removed completely, about > 360 km/h
- mini cat's will be removed and the CEL (check engine light) will be removed
- for STAGE 2, there will be a new manifold with a bigger Profile with a perfect Setting
- LEIB CAN PERFORMANCE valve vontrol via the M1 button (M1 button/mode active = valves open | M1 button/mode not active = valves closed) will replace the IPE valve control

This will be a Monster...

++ f-series update: 335i, 435i, M135i, M235i software finished++
++ from today you can place your order waiting time optimized ++
++ only one week of time to get your ECU back ++

335i & 435i : 500Nm & 380 PS for only 1980 €
M135i & M235i : 540Nm & 390 PS for only 1980 €

features: vmax open, CEL (check engine light) deleted (catless downpipes)

The first 10 (N55) orders will receive 10 discount of 20%.
Only 1584 €. To place this order, you have to pay 50% (792 €) of the price in advance.
— at LEIB Engineering

+ F10 M5 update ++ work has paid off: F10 M5 with perfectly coordinated software in the original engine control unit leaves the halls of body engineering.

Super Sprint Testpipes + IPE exhaust system with valves + body software + body flap control (normal - folding to M1, button active - Auto mode from 66.6% accelerator pedal position flaps on M2 button active - fold permanently open) + Vmax open + check engine light out programmed.
It has become a monster. 727 HP...

Have fun with it: (Translated by Bing)

+ Another F10 M5 update ++ current status of our M5 monsters, see for yourself: 744,8 HP and 935,7 NM on the rear axle (Translated by Bing)

[shahano]

i am worried to send my ecu though... maybe we can order a new ECU for this.

[M-bitious]

No worries about sending the ecus, people send much more fragile and expensive parts across the globe.

I'd like to add the following to Leib's work. Dominik is an absolute pro and a pleasure to work with.


- Cell has been programmed out for the catless SS downpipes.

- Removed three speed limiters, 1 from the gearbox and 2 from the DME's, but there is still one left ;-) Still limited at 315 km/h GPS. We did find number 4, but need to go back to Germany to get the remap.

- Removed the 4,000 rpm limiter when stationary (not when engine is cold)

- Dominik also found out why my car sometimes went into limp mode under certain conditions, which is valid for all other M5's. This can only be fixed with a remap on the ecu's. It will only happen above certain bhp. Please appreciate that I cannot reveal his trade secret here.

- The torque on my engine is much more in line with the oem torque line. Piggybags usually have a lower torque to start with but a peak at high rpm's.

- We could take the bhp and torque to higher levels, but then we would have to make changes in mapping files that would jeopardice the limp mode of BMW, which I find unacceptable. Also at some point either the gearbox or the engine will fail. We are now on the safe side of things.

[Abdalla Alhammadi]

Originally Posted by M-bitious

No worries about sending the ecus, people send much more fragile and expensive parts across the globe.

I'd like to add the following to Leib's work. Dominik is an absolute pro and a pleasure to work with.


- Cell has been programmed out for the catless SS downpipes.

- Removed three speed limiters, 1 from the gearbox and 2 from the DME's, but there is still one left ;-) Still limited at 315 km/h GPS. We did find number 4, but need to go back to Germany to get the remap.

- Removed the 4,000 rpm limiter when stationary (not when engine is cold)

- Dominik also found out why my car sometimes went into limp mode under certain conditions, which is valid for all other M5's. This can only be fixed with a remap on the ecu's. It will only happen above certain bhp. Please appreciate that I cannot reveal his trade secret here.

- The torque on my engine is much more in line with the oem torque line. Piggybags usually have a lower torque to start with but a peak at high rpm's.

- We could take the bhp and torque to higher levels, but then we would have to make changes in mapping files that would jeopardice the limp mode of BMW, which I find unacceptable. Also at some point either the gearbox or the engine will fail. We are now on the safe side of things.

bro how are you?
I have question, can they just break the ecu and send it back? how much will cost and how long?

thanks ^___^

[PeterPure]

Did you have a chance to do some more vbox testing?

[M-bitious]

My brother, yes you can send them the ECUs, but you can also speak with Franz about this. He can sort you out.

The only vbox test I have done was 100-200 km/h in 6.2 seconds and max speed of 316 km/h. It is raining here all the time and I really need a dry, warm road. Biggest problem with 100-200 is traction. Even with 6.2 I had some wheel spin, so I should be able to break the 6 seconds barrier.

[Erik K.]

Familiar car

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Erik K.

Familiar car

[infamousq]

So in other words the ECU's have been cracked an the cars limiter is set at 316km. Impressive most impressive.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by infamousq

So in other words the ECU's have been cracked an the cars limiter is set at 316km. Impressive most impressive.

They will also remove the 315km/h limiter, but a new flash is needed

[M5Rlz]

So is it just brute force hacking that they are only able to do in-house?

Or do they see this eventually being able to be adapted into flash tunes?

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

So is it just brute force hacking that they are only able to do in-house?

Or do they see this eventually being able to be adapted into flash tunes?

You have to ask them that question

[Traveler_M5]

Is this tune in full production yet, or still being beta tested? After reading through the thread it appears that they are a few kinks that are being worked out.

Is there any warranty with this tune, my guess not.

Considering that the shop is only about 1.5 hour from where I live I might stop by to check out this outfit.

[M-bitious]

Nope it is fully operational and flawless. I don't believe there is any other F10 M5 running on normal fuel with 647 RWHP. The only thing remaining is the top speed of 316 km/n GPS (328 speedo) which has not yet been removed. I suggest you speak with Dominik Leib to discuss the options.
I don't know what stages he will be offering to the market.

[infamousq]

How long will it take to do this process? When I am in Germany on the euro delivery I may "stop" by to look at it.

[M-bitious]

It currently takes too long for you. About a week to prepare the Ecu's.

[rafaele92]

i will wait a few months ; )

and i will send them my ECU , meanwhile .... DP´s .

[Abdalla Alhammadi]

Originally Posted by M-bitious

My brother, yes you can send them the ECUs, but you can also speak with Franz about this. He can sort you out.

The only vbox test I have done was 100-200 km/h in 6.2 seconds and max speed of 316 km/h. It is raining here all the time and I really need a dry, warm road. Biggest problem with 100-200 is traction. Even with 6.2 I had some wheel spin, so I should be able to break the 6 seconds barrier.

Thanks bro for your response and i'll check with him.

when we will see you again? specially the weather is becoming better now ^_^

[BMW269]

Well if now the ECU is cracked by you, can you help AMS to tune the +1000 HP M5 Alpha?