1st M5 to 1000 RWHP!!! / Built Motor and Garrett Turbos! (Mods Inside)

LestorGribble · 05-07-2018, 06:18 PM

Have you done anything to the transmission (gears and shafts), differential, or differential mount to cope with the increased torque load? Do you anticipate any failures due to the the safety factor now being reduced on these components?

KMORGSM5 · 05-07-2018, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LestorGribble

Have you done anything to the transmission (gears and shafts), differential, or differential mount to cope with the increased torque load? Do you anticipate any failures due to the the safety factor now being reduced on these components?

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Phil@BPC · 05-08-2018, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Advantage

Any vendors offering a complete build package for our F10 M5's yet?

Similar to how vendors like Alpha for GT-R or Vengeance for Corvette's offer various packages from mild to fully built with supporting tranny updates.

Everything being performed on this build is inhouse and to our specifications. We offer a complete build package for the S63 platform. For additional information contact Tom at Thomas@bimmerperformancecenter.com or at (919) 501-2090.

https://bimmerperformancecenter.com/...engine-package

https://bimmerperformancecenter.com/...ission-package

Advantage · 05-08-2018, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KMORGSM5

Think only BPC does that with some other companies products like SSP Clutches etc.

Thanks for the feedback.

Advantage · 05-08-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil@BPC

Everything being performed on this build is inhouse and to our specifications. We offer a complete build package for the S63 platform. For additional information contact Tom at Thomas@bimmerperformancecenter.com or at (919) 501-2090.

https://bimmerperformancecenter.com/...engine-package

https://bimmerperformancecenter.com/...ission-package

Thanks for the information. I will call Tom later today to inquire further.

Advantage · 05-09-2018, 08:00 AM

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Thanks for the information. I will call Tom later today to inquire further.

I talked to Tim yesterday on my drive home from work. I was impressed with their capabilities, support, and pricing. Well done BPC.

LestorGribble · 05-17-2018, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KMORGSM5

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Thank you for the tip, though that doesn't answer my question.

Phil@BPC · 05-17-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LestorGribble

Thank you for the tip, though that doesn't answer my question.

We reinforce the rear diff mount with our own developed reinforced mount and upgraded to DSS shafts. Other than clutches and baskets nothing internal has been touched. This M5 has been daily driven with over 20,000 miles and no transmission issues. Those 20,000 miles were not easy either, Ruben took it to car shows, half mile events and played with quite a few people on the highways.

LestorGribble · 05-17-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil@BPC

We reinforce the rear diff mount with our own developed reinforced mount and upgraded to DSS shafts. Other than clutches and baskets nothing internal has been touched. This M5 has been daily driven with over 20,000 miles and no transmission issues. Those 20,000 miles were not easy either, Ruben took it to car shows, half mile events and played with quite a few people on the highways.

Interesting. By any chance, do you know how often the transmission and differential fluids were changed, and have you seen above average metallic content in the fluids when doing so? Also, do you have pictures or a link to the rear differential mount upgrades?

Phil@BPC · 05-18-2018, 07:51 AM

It gets changed every 20k and we havent seen anything out of the ordinary.

M4_Ronin · 05-21-2018, 05:51 PM

Sneak Peek!

m5 guy · 05-21-2018, 06:42 PM

V8munro · 05-23-2018, 07:36 PM

Hearing mixed views on how to prime these engines when rebuilt. Is it enough to fill as normal and crank over engine to prime system or does a certain amount of oil need to be added through the oil filter housing to fully prime the system?

Phil@BPC · 06-29-2018, 03:30 PM

Got some spanish bling installed and JetHot stopped by with some goodies. We can't wait to get everything installed and get it on the dyno. Stay tuned!

allmotor_2000 · 06-29-2018, 03:39 PM

Not re-circulating the waste-gate exits? Looks like the DP's were patched from the initial connection and straight dumps now.

M4_Ronin · 06-29-2018, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Not re-circulating the waste-gate exits? Looks like the DP's were patched from the initial connection and straight dumps now.

Correct!

KMORGSM5 · 06-29-2018, 04:18 PM

Lookin good Rubin. Can't wait to see next dyno numbers.

When are you going to do a 1/2 mile event?

Used2be · 06-30-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Not re-circulating the waste-gate exits? Looks like the DP's were patched from the initial connection and straight dumps now.

Could you or Ruben explain what the changes are in the exhaust/turbo setup shown in the pictures? I don't know enough about the system to understand what I'm looking at, but do these changes pretty much open the door to any turbo that will fit under the hood?

Looks beautifully integrated, congratulations.

allmotor_2000 · 06-30-2018, 11:39 PM

His setup is using the stock manifold and an adapter-plate to mount any turbo coupled to external wastegates. DP’s would be custom to the turbine housing positioning. He has modified the wastegate exit to dump straight out vs recirculate back into the DP.

Mine (Pure X) was similar except using a custom manifold to optimize flow and spool since (in my opinion) the OEM manifold has an inefficient design.

It’s really upto what one is trying to achieve. Peak power, spool, area under the curve etc. One can simulate all of this so the result matches the intent.

Used2be · 07-01-2018, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

His setup is using the stock manifold and an adapter-plate to mount any turbo coupled to external wastegates. DP’s would be custom to the turbine housing positioning. He has modified the wastegate exit to dump straight out vs recirculate back into the DP.

Thanks for the explanation. I finally saw the exit port on one of the waste gates and realized the straight tube attached and that it was in fact a waste gate. Are those set mechanically to a certain blow off pressure, or are they controllable while you're driving?

KMORGSM5 · 07-01-2018, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil@BPC

Got some spanish bling installed and JetHot stopped by with some goodies. We can't wait to get everything installed and get it on the dyno. Stay tuned!

Rubin, looking good!

You still running BPC diff mount or modify yours even more?

Used2be · 07-01-2018, 08:03 AM

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You still running BPC diff mount or modify yours even more?

Post #428 shows his latest diff support.

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