Share your scary moments

[lumberman]

I think most of us agree on the traction issues with M5, it was raining tonight, I took a mid speed corner about 90km, with DSC fully "ON", the tail just spung right out, nearly hit the car on opposite lane, I don't know if it was me that save the day, but one thing for sure that I would expect DSC to cut in much earlier.

I love my M5, but this thing need to be treated with respect or it will catch you one day

[nugent]

did you push accelerator mid turn? as long as you keep the car neutral -no quick steering wheel maneuvers, no sudden deceleration or acceleration- that won't happen. I agree with you though, it does not take much for this car to take you by surprise.

[wisesoul]

Having come from an AWD RS4, I would say there is a bit of a learning curve. M5 definitely has grip in the corners, but the power can come on abruptly if you aren't careful. Navigating a u-turn a couple of weeks ago, my sandals slipped and the rear came out a few degrees on me on MDM. Thought I was about to end up doing donuts

[lumberman]

Originally Posted by wisesoul

Having come from an AWD RS4, I would say there is a bit of a learning curve. M5 definitely has grip in the corners, but the power can come on abruptly if you aren't careful. Navigating a u-turn a couple of weeks ago, my sandals slipped and the rear came out a few degrees on me on MDM. Thought I was about to end up doing donuts

agree, it takes time to learn on modulating the throttle, the slip is quite suprising, just great power under our foot

[PatrickC23]

Dont think Ill ever try MDM unless I go to M school. Its good to read posts like these though as its prepping me for the M5 and driving it. Glad you came out w/o hitting anything or getting hurt. I am surprised that DSC fully on would allow that much slip - are your tires still new?

[lumberman]

Originally Posted by PatrickC23

Dont think Ill ever try MDM unless I go to M school. Its good to read posts like these though as its prepping me for the M5 and driving it. Glad you came out w/o hitting anything or getting hurt. I am surprised that DSC fully on would allow that much slip - are your tires still new?

that surprised me too, my tires are 90% new, I just take the corner as if dry road, expecting there's a safety net of DSC would correct me..
it takes time to feels the edge of the car..

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by lumberman

that surprised me too, my tires are 90% new, I just take the corner as if dry road, expecting there's a safety net of DSC would correct me..
it takes time to feels the edge of the car..

DSC doesn't override the laws of physics. Too fast on a wet bend, together with unkind throttle input and nothing will save a slide.

That's why it is good to drive with DSC OFF to see what the car is capable of / or not capable of (in most cases).

[nugent]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

DSC doesn't override the laws of physics. Too fast on a wet bend, together with unkind throttle input and nothing will save a slide.

That's why it is good to drive with DSC OFF to see what the car is capable of / or not capable of (in most cases).

"you cannot override the laws of physics." that's actually in the manual.

[reychen123]

I use MDM often, set with M2, never had a problem with, even I want to slide it won't do much.

[Rob///M5]

Originally Posted by PatrickC23

Dont think Ill ever try MDM unless I go to M school. Its good to read posts like these though as its prepping me for the M5 and driving it. Glad you came out w/o hitting anything or getting hurt. I am surprised that DSC fully on would allow that much slip - are your tires still new?

You definitely SHOULD try MDM! Love it.

Set the throttle to comfort or sport on wet days. Then the throttle isn't quite so trigger happy.

[PatrickC23]

Originally Posted by Rob///M5

You definitely SHOULD try MDM! Love it.

Set the throttle to comfort or sport on wet days. Then the throttle isn't quite so trigger happy.

Maybe Ill give it a shot first in an empty lot. For those that had an e46 M3, is this throttle button similar to the one on that car? I remember the e46 M3 with sport throttle response on was significantly different.

[nybimmerfan]

Originally Posted by PatrickC23

Dont think Ill ever try MDM unless I go to M school. Its good to read posts like these though as its prepping me for the M5 and driving it. Glad you came out w/o hitting anything or getting hurt. I am surprised that DSC fully on would allow that much slip - are your tires still new?

Actually during my 2-days at the M Performance School, we were told to turn off MDM and DSC for almost all of the manuevers. So most of the time that we were in the provided M cars, both MDM and DSC were off.

[PatrickC23]

Originally Posted by nybimmerfan

Actually during my 2-days at the M Performance School, we were told to turn off MDM and DSC for almost all of the manuevers. So most of the time that we were in the provided M cars, both MDM and DSC were off.

Yea, I have no problem experimenting on their cars. Im just paranoid Ill destroy mine! M school is definitely in my future when I can find the time.

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by PatrickC23

Yea, I have no problem experimenting on their cars. Im just paranoid Ill destroy mine! M school is definitely in my future when I can find the time.

Exactly right. I damaged one of theirs when I went and that was with MDM on. I think that saved my car. MDM requires a lot of care.

[E90076]

Originally Posted by nugent

"you cannot override the laws of physics." that's actually in the manual.

To this point...OP, do you feel like the car slipped out because of wheel spin or because of the inertia you carried into the corner? DSC usually steps in to stop wheel spin induced slides but it would certainly not be able to provide as much assistance if the car carried too much inertia into the corner started to slide without heavy throttle input.

[lumberman]

Originally Posted by E90076

To this point...OP, do you feel like the car slipped out because of wheel spin or because of the inertia you carried into the corner? DSC usually steps in to stop wheel spin induced slides but it would certainly not be able to provide as much assistance if the car carried too much inertia into the corner started to slide without heavy throttle input.

I wouldn't say I carry too much speed into the corner, but I did punch it when exiting, and the wheel break loose and kept spinning until I ease off the throttle..

shouldn't DSC cut the gas?

[Ahmed]

I had a scary moment in my E60, and it didn't end well!

But hey, I'm still here typing this!

[Rob///M5]

Originally Posted by Ahmed

I had a scary moment in my E60, and it didn't end well!

But hey, I'm still here typing this!

I had one of those too Ahmed. Glad to see you are still well

[lumberman]

I always remind myself when I see pictures like these.. I had one of those too, but it was a E90 330, anyway, most important thing is you still here~

[Protious]

Originally Posted by lumberman

I think most of us agree on the traction issues with M5, it was raining tonight, I took a mid speed corner about 90km, with DSC fully "ON", the tail just spung right out, nearly hit the car on opposite lane, I don't know if it was me that save the day, but one thing for sure that I would expect DSC to cut in much earlier.

I love my M5, but this thing need to be treated with respect or it will catch you one day

Same thing happened to me, lowered the tire pressure from 41 to 35 and I'm good to go again.. I think the side panel that says '41' is "do not go past 100 until the tires are 41psi'.

[nugent]

it is interesting to me why M division seemed to have changed the constraints of MDM in the M5 compared to the outgoing M3. I don't think it's just a matter of this car having more power/torque that allows it to get away from you with unexpected ease. MDM definitely makes the driving experience that much more interesting though. And the car does actually put more power down effectively in MDM without the DSC nanny kicking in so much. on dry roads, my standard settings for M2 are sport throttle, sport suspension, comfort steering, MDM. i love it. sport+ throttle is way too jumpy and hard to smoothly dial in for me. i don't mess around with MDM when the road is wet though.

[PatrickC23]

Originally Posted by nugent

it is interesting to me why M division seemed to have changed the constraints of MDM in the M5 compared to the outgoing M3. I don't think it's just a matter of this car having more power/torque that allows it to get away from you with unexpected ease. MDM definitely makes the driving experience that much more interesting though. And the car does actually put more power down effectively in MDM without the DSC nanny kicking in so much. on dry roads, my standard settings for M2 are sport throttle, sport suspension, comfort steering, MDM. i love it. sport+ throttle is way too jumpy and hard to smoothly dial in for me. i don't mess around with MDM when the road is wet though.

OP says DSC fully on - so Im assuming thats no MDM? Im not familiar with the lingo since I dont have the car yet, but Im assuming MDM ON means DSC partially off.