M5 with 800hp/1000Nm... SimonMotorSports of Dubai

[Dan_335]

Wow... He did very well hitting that corner at 250kph!!

Hahah

[DrakeKemper]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

That's a nice car and thanks for making the vid but 800 HP, c'mon man with those mods, not even close to 800.

Why not? Renntech makes 670HP from JUST A TUNE on the CLS63, and can make almost 900HP if you get every part/option.

A High Boost tune, Downpipes, and exhaust should add close to an extra 250HP over stock, even on stock turbos.

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by DrakeKemper

Why not? Renntech makes 670HP from JUST A TUNE on the CLS63, and can make almost 900HP if you get every part/option.

A High Boost tune, Downpipes, and exhaust should add close to an extra 250HP over stock, even on stock turbos.

Are you talking about a 5.5l biturbo AMG motor or an F10 M5?

Yes the AMG motor takes to mods very well. The F10 M5 is not bad but at only 4.4 litres gives up a lot to the AMG. With bolt-ons the F10 M5 is nowhere near 800 crank HP.

Here's a race between my bolt on 997.2 Turbo S which makes around 600 to the wheels against one of the worlds most powerful F10 M5's. It's the Burger Motorsports shop car. Terry has tweaked the tune he sells to customers for even more boost. This M5 has meth injection and catless downpipes and I would imagine has more power than the M5 in this thread with a "claimed: 800 HP.

As you can see in this vid, the M5 here hit high 600's on the Specialty Z dynojet. I would say comparing this to my car in the video below that the BMS car is making maybe 690-710 crank at the most. And that's about the most HP of any F10 M5 on the planet right now.

[Erik K.]

Originally Posted by Boss330

It's probably a limit to how much power really is needed in most situations. If you drive regularly on the Autobahn though, I suspect this M5 is a beast from 100MPH and above

It is:

At the time of this video the torque limiter was, as you can see, still there..

[cjackson1906]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I saw this earlier today and forgot to share it. So thanks for posting!

I would love to see this car and ride in it and race it against my car to see the difference. He would had to crack the encryption or something methinks.

Also for anyone who's ever owned a car close to 800hp or more, here in the states I've realized it's really pointless unless you live somewhere with no cops, no traffic and wide open roads. The F10 M5 with stock power and torque were plenty even when I have been able to really push the car past 150mph. 800hp would be fun in very very short bursts, say like 0.5 seconds each time. Not worth it for me anymore, but this is just my opinion.

SMH...Is this what happens when you spend too much time around VA police? They got you shook son! You know I'm just messing with you and I can't stress the difference in law enforcement here in TX compared to DC/VA/MD. It feels like I left a military police zone...

[turbo666]

Lol @ 800hp

[M-bitious]

It makes 800 bhp at the crank on a Maha dyno, not at the wheels. From 120 km/h to 250 km/h it is faster than a Lambo Aventador (we tried that on the Autobahn).

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Are you talking about a 5.5l biturbo AMG motor or an F10 M5?

Yes the AMG motor takes to mods very well. The F10 M5 is not bad but at only 4.4 litres gives up a lot to the AMG. With bolt-ons the F10 M5 is nowhere near 800 crank HP.

Here's a race between my bolt on 997.2 Turbo S which makes around 600 to the wheels against one of the worlds most powerful F10 M5's. It's the Burger Motorsports shop car. Terry has tweaked the tune he sells to customers for even more boost. This M5 has meth injection and catless downpipes and I would imagine has more power than the M5 in this thread with a "claimed: 800 HP.

As you can see in this vid, the M5 here hit high 600's on the Specialty Z dynojet. I would say comparing this to my car in the video below that the BMS car is making maybe 690-710 crank at the most. And that's about the most HP of any F10 M5 on the planet right now.

What is your basis for saying that the BMS shop M5 is the most powerful M5 in the world?

This M5 makes 800hp at the crank on a MAHA dyno, the dyno that is widely acknowledged as the most accurate and precise chassis dyno available!

[Erik K.]

We also 'Killed' a Ferrari 458 Italia from 150km/h - 250km/h.

[Franz@Simonmotorsport]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Are you talking about a 5.5l biturbo AMG motor or an F10 M5?

Yes the AMG motor takes to mods very well. The F10 M5 is not bad but at only 4.4 litres gives up a lot to the AMG. With bolt-ons the F10 M5 is nowhere near 800 crank HP.

Here's a race between my bolt on 997.2 Turbo S which makes around 600 to the wheels against one of the worlds most powerful F10 M5's. It's the Burger Motorsports shop car. Terry has tweaked the tune he sells to customers for even more boost. This M5 has meth injection and catless downpipes and I would imagine has more power than the M5 in this thread with a "claimed: 800 HP.

As you can see in this vid, the M5 here hit high 600's on the Specialty Z dynojet. I would say comparing this to my car in the video below that the BMS car is making maybe 690-710 crank at the most. And that's about the most HP of any F10 M5 on the planet right now.

With all my respect but you are telling me that a M5 F10 with a BMS piggyback and catless downpipes is one of the fastest M5's in the World? Well it depends if USA might be the world for you.

I have many dyno sheets on MAHA dynos (btw the maha dyno Crank HP numbers are not far of a DYNOJET WHP numbes) with M5's well over 700HP.

There is no arguing with a MAHA dyno in the Industry. And just for a logic comparison, once again i dont think it sounds logic that a M5 F10 with a BMS piggyback has more Power then another M5 F10 with a ECU Tune, a Piggyback, Catless downpipes, Full Exhaust and a Gearbox flash.

I have a Video of a M5 F10 with 725 Crank HP on a MAHA keeping up with a GTR R35 Alpha 6 that does 600 WHP on Mustang dyno...

I dyno cars all day long at my shop.. And i had 450 Dynojet WHP cars bearly making 470 Crank HP on our Maha.

[Jeef]

Originally Posted by Maddict3

totally agree.

I disagree

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by Franz@Simonmotorsport

With all my respect but you are telling me that a M5 F10 with a BMS piggyback and catless downpipes is one of the fastest M5's in the World? Well it depends if USA might be the world for you.

I have many dyno sheets on MAHA dynos (btw the maha dyno Crank HP numbers are not far of a DYNOJET WHP numbes) with M5's well over 700HP.

There is no arguing with a MAHA dyno in the Industry. And just for a logic comparison, once again i dont think it sounds logic that a M5 F10 with a BMS piggyback has more Power then another M5 F10 with a ECU Tune, a Piggyback, Catless downpipes, Full Exhaust and a Gearbox flash.

I have a Video of a M5 F10 with 725 Crank HP on a MAHA keeping up with a GTR R35 Alpha 6 that does 600 WHP on Mustang dyno...

I dyno cars all day long at my shop.. And i had 450 Dynojet WHP cars bearly making 470 Crank HP on our Maha.

Your "full exhaust" and "gearbox flash" and staking a piggy on top of an ECU tune aren't going to give you much additional power. The power comes from the catless downpipes, which the BMS shop car has, and the tune itself. It is a very aggressive tune that Terry runs in connection with methanol injection. Does your car run meth?

I posted the vid as a comparison sake to prove even at mid to high 600's on a dynojet, the BMS M5 is probably around 700 crank. And maybe that's what your car is making. Which is terrific. I never said it wasn't. But to get to 800 you are likely going to need larger turbos.

And yes a 725 maha M5 and a 600 wheel e85 GTR are probably going to be very close on a roll-on. Terry's M5 would be close as well. But again, that's not 800 HP. That's going to take more work.

Cheers.

[Franz@Simonmotorsport]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Your "full exhaust" and "gearbox flash" and staking a piggy on top of an ECU tune aren't going to give you much additional power. The power comes from the catless downpipes, which the BMS shop car has, and the tune itself. It is a very aggressive tune that Terry runs in connection with methanol injection. Does your car run meth?

I posted the vid as a comparison sake to prove even at mid to high 600's on a dynojet, the BMS M5 is probably around 700 crank. And maybe that's what your car is making. Which is terrific. I never said it wasn't. But to get to 800 you are likely going to need larger turbos.

And yes a 725 maha M5 and a 600 wheel e85 GTR are probably going to be very close on a roll-on. Terry's M5 would be close as well. But again, that's not 800 HP. That's going to take more work.

Cheers.

Well its good that you know better than i do, what i do for living

I think the best thing will be V Box numbers to see what the results will be and then see which "theory" was true and which was false.

I am not saying the BMS car is slow.. BMS is a good company and they do great stuff... but i had plenty of M5's on on our dyno with piggybacks from literally every company that offers them.. On a side note... if they are runing Catless downpipes they must have a CEL or is will the BMS Piggyback delete it like on the 335's?

Also, with that being said it and your comparison it means that a Giac 997TT is faster then an Alpha 6 GTR?

[StealYourFace]

Too much of everything is just enough

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Franz@Simonmotorsport

...I think the best thing will be V Box numbers to see what the results will be and then see which "theory" was true and which was false.

Absolutely good idea
Please post some numbers including 1/4 mile, trap speed, 100-200 km/h, 200-300 km/h and 60-130 mph and the weight of car ...
and if you have time please answer my question in post #15

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Your "full exhaust" and "gearbox flash" and staking a piggy on top of an ECU tune aren't going to give you much additional power. The power comes from the catless downpipes, which the BMS shop car has, and the tune itself. It is a very aggressive tune that Terry runs in connection with methanol injection. Does your car run meth?

How do you know that the combination of piggyback and ECU tune doesn't add much power? After all, Terrys car only has the piggyback... No ECU tune...

What 1/4 mile ET and trap speeds does Terry's car do?

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by Franz@Simonmotorsport

Well its good that you know better than i do, what i do for living

I think the best thing will be V Box numbers to see what the results will be and then see which "theory" was true and which was false.

I am not saying the BMS car is slow.. BMS is a good company and they do great stuff... but i had plenty of M5's on on our dyno with piggybacks from literally every company that offers them.. On a side note... if they are runing Catless downpipes they must have a CEL or is will the BMS Piggyback delete it like on the 335's?

Also, with that being said it and your comparison it means that a Giac 997TT is faster then an Alpha 6 GTR?

Then if it's 800 crank HP prove it. Terry did a verified 7.1 vBox 60-130mph with his car in the early stages of testing prior to meth injection. Maybe he's in the high 6's now with more boost and meth. If you are 100 more HP, then you should be low 6's.

And yes my 997.2 is faster than an Alpha 6 GTR. I presume that's the same as a FBO e85 GTR? When I only had a GIAC tune and IPD plenum (530 wheel), I beat a FBO e85 GTR making 600 mustang dyno wheel (with a 10.4 @ 134mph 1/4 mile timeslip) at the Shift Sector Big Willow roll-on event. I will post this vid if you want to see it. Now I have 75 more horsepower with intercoolers, exhaust and 4psi more boost so an Alpha 9 GTR is next. My buddy Dean has one that I want to race at the next Shift Sector airstrip event.

You have an awesome car but I just think 800 crank is a stretch. Cheers.

[turbo8765]

Did the OP ever state the WHP or post a dyno?

VBOX numbers would be interesting, a time slip would be MUCH better confirmation.

Claiming 800hp it should trap well into the 130's.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Then if it's 800 crank HP prove it. Terry did a verified 7.1 vBox 60-130mph with his car in the early stages of testing prior to meth injection. Maybe he's in the high 6's now with more boost and meth. If you are 100 more HP, then you should be low 6's.

And yes my 997.2 is faster than an Alpha 6 GTR. I presume that's the same as a FBO e85 GTR? When I only had a GIAC tune and IPD plenum (530 wheel), I beat a FBO e85 GTR making 600 mustang dyno wheel (with a 10.4 @ 134mph 1/4 mile timeslip) at the Shift Sector Big Willow roll-on event. I will post this vid if you want to see it. Now I have 75 more horsepower with intercoolers, exhaust and 4psi more boost so an Alpha 9 GTR is next. My buddy Dean has one that I want to race at the next Shift Sector airstrip event.

You have an awesome car but I just think 800 crank is a stretch. Cheers.

The owner of the car posted that the car makes 800hp at the crank, on a MAHA

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=29

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by turbo8765

Did the OP ever state the WHP or post a dyno?

VBOX numbers would be interesting, a time slip would be MUCH better confirmation.

Claiming 800hp it should trap well into the 130's.

The OP (me) only have the video...

The owner of the car however said the car had 800hp at the crank on a MAHA dyno

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=29

[Tylerstar]

So, if this car is faster then a aventador and has 800hp, It should trap 135-140ish shouldn't it?

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Tylerstar

So, if this car is faster then a aventador and has 800hp, It should trap 135-140ish shouldn't it?

It's not faster than a Aventador in every metric I guess. They only said it's faster from 120km/h to 250km/h.

In a drag race I suspect it would be the opposite!