What Boost Should I Run? BMS Stage 1

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Where do I find that Firmware file?

What's your email ill send it to you but check with terry when you get it and make sure it's the right firmware.
I have two on my desktop but i think the other one is the stage 2 firmware for meth set up.
I believe I'm sending you the right one

[RichardCranium]

Originally Posted by m6beast

What's your email ill send it to you but check with terry when you get it and make sure it's the right firmware.
I have two on my desktop but i think the other one is the stage 2 firmware for meth set up.
I believe I'm sending you the right one

Looking for the new firmware as well can't find it on his site. does anyone have a link?

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by RichardCranium

Looking for the new firmware as well can't find it on his site. does anyone have a link?

I emailed BMS regarding the same question and Ando from BMS referenced me to the N54tech.com website
There should be a thread there for both software versions.

[Andym3100k]

Last night, I tried out 7.5psi with VP 109 race gas n meth.

The result was

I strongly believe our engine can do much more than that, will keep pushing it to the limit.

For those running 3 or below, don't waste your time. The secret is to do a proper adaption of the engine n after which u can do probably anything u want!

Good luck!

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Last night, I tried out 7.5psi with VP 109 race gas n meth.

The result was

I strongly believe our engine can do much more than that, will keep pushing it to the limit.

For those running 3 or below, don't waste your time. The secret is to do a proper adaption of the engine n after which u can do probably anything u want!

Good luck!

holy shit lol

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Last night, I tried out 7.5psi with VP 109 race gas n meth.

The result was

I strongly believe our engine can do much more than that, will keep pushing it to the limit.

For those running 3 or below, don't waste your time. The secret is to do a proper adaption of the engine n after which u can do probably anything u want!

Good luck!

Values over 6psi or so are not going to have much addl effect and may cause serious problems. I'd max it out at 6.00 with the 3/1/14 and later firmware.

Mike

[Tylerstar]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Last night, I tried out 7.5psi with VP 109 race gas n meth.

The result was

I strongly believe our engine can do much more than that, will keep pushing it to the limit.

For those running 3 or below, don't waste your time. The secret is to do a proper adaption of the engine n after which u can do probably anything u want!

Good luck!

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Values over 6psi or so are not going to have much addl effect and may cause serious problems. I'd max it out at 6.00 with the 3/1/14 and later firmware.

Mike

Hi mike, can I know how n why did u say u max it out at 6psi? R u refering to the fuel or the boost of the turbo? Would like to know how u guy have tested on the car?

Will do a dyno soon to see what is the result, hopefully next Thursday if they r available. Thks

[greentrbo95gst]

BMS uses a ceiling/limit for all their tunes so you can add 100 psi if you want but it will stop at the preset limit.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Hi mike, can I know how n why did u say u max it out at 6psi? R u refering to the fuel or the boost of the turbo? Would like to know how u guy have tested on the car?

Will do a dyno soon to see what is the result, hopefully next Thursday if they r available. Thks

He is referring to the cars ability to adjust fueling. Over 7 psi I am certain you are running lean , the really high octane you were running was the only thing that kept you're engine from popping. Even running meth with race gas thats too much boost. I'm not sure the stock fuel pumps could keep up with that even if it was a full ECU tune. Be careful man, thats a 30k motor.

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

BMS uses a ceiling/limit for all their tunes so you can add 100 psi if you want but it will stop at the preset limit.

U mean they have set it at max 6psi? So even when I up boost to 7.5psi it will still stay at 6? Can't be cos the log that I got was much higher than it was on 6psi.

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

He is referring to the cars ability to adjust fueling. Over 7 psi I am certain you are running lean , the really high octane you were running was the only thing that kept you're engine from popping. Even running meth with race gas thats too much boost. I'm not sure the stock fuel pumps could keep up with that even if it was a full ECU tune. Be careful man, thats a 30k motor.

Noted with thanks.

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

U mean they have set it at max 6psi? So even when I up boost to 7.5psi it will still stay at 6? Can't be cos the log that I got was much higher than it was on 6psi.

Where were your air fuels at? Also when you data logged where was the boost at would love to see it. If things are not right the car would not run good and would pull back boost timing ect. Would like to see some logs post one up wanna compare what mine is showing at 6lbs Compared to your 7.5lb.
Good luck man

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by m6beast

Where were your air fuels at? Also when you data logged where was the boost at would love to see it. If things are not right the car would not run good and would pull back boost timing ect. Would like to see some logs post one up wanna compare what mine is showing at 6lbs Compared to your 7.5lb.
Good luck man

Hi Bro, I have not dyno so not sure on it hopefully this thur or so. Anyone can tell me how to upload the file to show everyone? Or someone just forward his email to me so I can forward the file to him to upload it?

I'm using the JB4 mobile apps from my old N55 car using a Samsung note 3 to log, it comes with a graph too. Will only show target boost, actual boost & a very odd RPM number. So I'm basically just looking at the target n actual boost.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Hi Bro, I have not dyno so not sure on it hopefully this thur or so. Anyone can tell me how to upload the file to show everyone? Or someone just forward his email to me so I can forward the file to him to upload it?

I'm using the JB4 mobile apps from my old N55 car using a Samsung note 3 to log, it comes with a graph too. Will only show target boost, actual boost & a very odd RPM number. So I'm basically just looking at the target n actual boost.

I would def invest in installing a wideband AFR reader in the car like M6 beast has if you want to push the limits as much as you have been . It's the only way to tell if you've gone too far , before you're engine goes boom .

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

I would def invest in installing a wideband AFR reader in the car like M6 beast has if you want to push the limits as much as you have been . It's the only way to tell if you've gone too far , before you're engine goes boom .

Good idea, will hook up one asap.

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by m6beast

Where were your air fuels at? Also when you data logged where was the boost at would love to see it. If things are not right the car would not run good and would pull back boost timing ect. Would like to see some logs post one up wanna compare what mine is showing at 6lbs Compared to your 7.5lb.
Good luck man

Im trying to upload the file thru my desktop but it just wouldnt work.

it said upload errors, invalid file csv, can i email to u?

[Tylerstar]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Hi mike, can I know how n why did u say u max it out at 6psi? R u refering to the fuel or the boost of the turbo? Would like to know how u guy have tested on the car?

Will do a dyno soon to see what is the result, hopefully next Thursday if they r available. Thks

Only way to tell is to dyno it . Speaking of that, I need to get mine on a dyno. I have gotten some good real world results though. I did multiple runs against a 600whp evo, Killed em every time

[Tylerstar]

Also, I find its easier to tell if it has adapted when it feels strong on the low end with minimal gas. If it feels sluggish and weak, more then likely it's still adapting.

[Andym3100k]

I just cut & paste the log, as i said it has a funny rpm number which i got it from my jb4 mobile apps thru my samsung note 3 phone. These are in 3rd gear pull onwards to 5th, if im not wrong highest boost level should be around 23.6psi. i dont know whether is it right or?

RPM ECU TAR BOOST
483 7.8 10.8 12.4
471 8 11 12.5
479 8.4 11.2 12.8
473 8 11.1 13.1
488 7.5 11.1 13
523 8.2 11.5 13.1
539 8.3 11.9 13.8
545 8.4 13.4 14.5
543 9.4 14.5 16.1
586 9.9 14.5 16.1
544 10.8 15.3 17.3
553 10 15.3 17.3
589 10 15.4 17
601 10.6 15.4 17.1
546 10.1 15.1 17.2
547 9.8 15.5 17.1
586 9.6 15.9 16.8
580 9.6 16.4 17.4
537 11.6 16.2 17.6
575 11.6 16.3 17.5
552 11.5 16.6 18.2
567 11.1 17.1 18.2
620 11.1 17.6 18.7
624 10.8 17.9 19.1
634 11.5 18.4 19.5
627 11.5 18.3 20
661 11.7 19.1 20
687 11.7 19.3 20.5
688 11.7 19.6 21
663 12.4 19.8 21.1
671 12 20.1 21.5
669 14.4 20.1 22
728 13 20.6 22.7
681 14.7 21 23.2
684 15.7 21.5 23.6
694 13.4 21.6 23.5
692 12.9 21.6 23.5
695 12.8 21.7 23.4
681 13 21.5 23.1
718 12.7 21.2 22.9
660 14.5 20.7 22.8
671 12.8 20.8 22.8
691 12.5 20.8 22.8
667 12.4 20.7 22.6
669 14.3 20.7 22.5
694 14.3 20.7 22.9
702 15 22.9 25.1
699 12.5 21.5 24.4
686 12.8 21.5 23.3
664 12.6 20.4 22.4
670 14.8 20 22.3
669 12.7 20.8 22.5
684 11.8 20.8 22.5
662 14.7 20.4 22.2
672 12.7 20.4 22.5
683 12.6 20.3 22.3
632 13.3 20.3 22.2
670 12.2 20.6 22.5
731 12.7 21.5 24.3
720 14.4 21.5 23.8
660 14.4 21.5 23.8
587 9.9 16.4 18.7
573 9.6 15.2 17.4
534 9.7 14.2 15.6
513 9.6 14 15.6
564 9.2 14.1 15.5
580 10.6 15.4 17.3
615 10.6 16.1 18.2
610 12.7 18.7 20.1
650 12.2 18.7 21.4
653 12.5 20.4 22.7
702 12.5 21 23.4
689 13.3 21 23.7
685 12.9 21.2 23.6
672 14.8 21 23.6
690 13.5 20.6 23.4
681 13 21.2 23.4
689 15.1 20.7 22.8
658 14.2 20.7 22.4
680 12.6 20.4 22.6
682 12.9 21.2 22.8
696 12.7 21 23
670 12.8 20.7 22.8
695 12.7 20.8 23
669 13 20.7 22.8
677 15.4 20.7 23
673 12.5 20.8 22.8
660 13.2 21 22.8
729 12.8 20.8 23
665 12.4 20.8 23
672 12.9 21.2 22.8
679 14.4 21.3 23
676 12.4 21.2 23.1
673 12.4 21.3 22.7
684 13.5 21.1 22.9
703 13.6 22.1 24.4
681 14.7 22 24
664 15.2 21.9 24.2
688 14.1 21.9 24.2
718 15.3 22 24.1
779 14.1 22.2 25
714 17.2 24.2 27
620 11 21.1 22.9
419 6.8 11.2 12.1
380 6.1 9.5 10.3
362 5.1 7.3 8
368 4.8 5.8 6.9
333 3.7 4.9 5.5
319 4.1 4.5 5.1
318 3.7 4 4.7
313 3.7 3.7 4.3
300 3.4 3.2 3.8
298 3.4 3 3.7
296 3.3 3 3.5
293 3.3 2.9 3.4
291 3.2 2.8 3.3
290 3.2 2.8 3.3
289 3.1 3 3.2
288 3.1 2.7 3.2
287 3.1 2.6 3.1
286 3.1 2.6 3.1

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Im trying to upload the file thru my desktop but it just wouldnt work.

it said upload errors, invalid file csv, can i email to u?

Just take a pic of the actual datalog that shows the graph that kind of gives an idea where the boost is at even though wont be as perfect as the log itself.
No worries though, if you can that will be great
G

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by m6beast

Just take a pic of the actual datalog that shows the graph that kind of gives an idea where the boost is at even though wont be as perfect as the log itself.
No worries though, if you can that will be great
G

Will do it once I got back home tonight, my Samsung can't attached anything to the forum page.