EVO Track Battle: M5 vs GT-R

pkimM3r · 08-08-2014, 11:34 AM

why so defensive? the reasons he states are exactly why is take the m5. gotta get that lock and play with available traction!

M5 RAG · 08-08-2014, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gmd2003

Actually a different driver during a C&D comparo vs the M5 at that track ran a 1:17.2 in the M6 ! That driver also got a better time out of the M5 that day 1:18.5 I think. . So a big difference between the two actually. The M6 had significantly less understeer on turn in and could carry more mid corner speed . This is one of the only same day same driver, same track comparo's I've seen vs the two . 1.3 seconds on such a short track is a TON !

Bearing in mind the video above is a non comp pack M5 and it ran a quicker time than the Evo CP car, does this suggest there would be very little in it on a track between a comp and non comp pack F10 M5, as everyone has already stated Anglesey is a very tight technical track, I would have expected the comp pack car to have been quicker than the standard M5 - maybe not though!

gmd2003 · 08-08-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M5 RAG

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Originally Posted by gmd2003

Actually a different driver during a C&D comparo vs the M5 at that track ran a 1:17.2 in the M6 ! That driver also got a better time out of the M5 that day 1:18.5 I think. . So a big difference between the two actually. The M6 had significantly less understeer on turn in and could carry more mid corner speed . This is one of the only same day same driver, same track comparo's I've seen vs the two . 1.3 seconds on such a short track is a TON !

Bearing in mind the video above is a non comp pack M5 and it ran a quicker time than the Evo CP car, does this suggest there would be very little in it on a track between a comp and non comp pack F10 M5, as everyone has already stated Anglesey is a very tight technical track, I would have expected the comp pack car to have been quicker than the standard M5 - maybe not though!

It was a different driver and a much cooler day in the Car and Driver , but I was intrigued by this as well . Perhaps the extra power actually hurt the CP car on this tight track .

boramkiv · 08-08-2014, 02:34 PM

Who is this guy?
Is this one of the stigs cousins?

I like this guy, especially his feedback. I also like that his reviews are not scripted. The hesitation in his explanations often times means he is really trying to relive the moment and make you understand what he really felt in each car during each lap.
This is how reviewing cars needs to be done. Screw all that hub bub about which car has more gadgets, or just faster from 0-60-0-100-1/4-slalom-8
Keep these coming.

M6-Coupe · 08-09-2014, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mainly

how do you know they're not reading these threads?

if they're not, they should be.

Please read my quote carefully! also quote #7 will give you some idea

and how do you know hes the only one that wished the "m"5 were lighter?

so you should be another one

i would bet at least 70% would like it to be at least 400 lbs lighter.

How do you know at least 70%?

BMW if you asked me failed on many levels with this m5.

many levels.

If you think so why are you driving M5? what's wrong with M3 that you are not swapping?

surewin · 08-10-2014, 02:23 AM

This review sums up why I wouldn't ever get a GTR. It's really not as involving throttle-wise in the limit as other cars in that price range or below it, and its tendency to push in the corners is unappealing.

Although the M5 is slower, the involvement it demands of the driver to get the most out of it is more rewarding, and at the end of the day, that makes the driving experience more fun.

turbo8765 · 08-10-2014, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by surewin

This review sums up why I wouldn't ever get a GTR. It's really not as involving throttle-wise in the limit as other cars in that price range or below it, and its tendency to push in the corners is unappealing.

Although the M5 is slower, the involvement it demands of the driver to get the most out of it is more rewarding, and at the end of the day, that makes the driving experience more fun.

Agreed.

SOM3 · 08-11-2014, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RPiM5

Now, I'm thinking trading in an F10 M5 for an F80 M3 just so one could go to the track more

Stay with M5, you're too obese to comfortably fit in F8X cars.

Can we get back to GTR vs M5 debate. Thanks in advance.

RPiM5 · 08-11-2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SOM3

Stay with M5. Can we get back to M5.

I always find it funny when people take things out of context.

M6-Coupe · 08-11-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RPiM5

I always find it funny when people take things out of context.

Dave,since some people are concerned about debating M5 vs GT-R and since M5 is not a track car but is a powerful monster let's have fun to see how this fantastic (heavy-big) car treats with GT-R in rolling

RPiM5 · 08-11-2014, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Dave,since some people are concerned about debating M5 vs GT-R and since M5 is not a track car but is a powerful monster let's have fun to see how this fantastic (heavy-big) car treats with GT-R in rolling

That's not even a fair fight. The GT-R would need to get down to the M4 weight to be competitive.

M6-Coupe · 08-11-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RPiM5

That's not even a fair fight. The GT-R would need to get down to the M4 weight to be competitive.

Agreed! BTW, do you think M4 with much less weight (than M5) can keep up with GT-R in rolling???

RPiM5 · 08-11-2014, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Agreed! BTW, do you think M4 with much less weight (than M5) can keep up with GT-R in rolling???

Well the M4 is 900lbs lighter than the M5 so it should destroy the M5.

M6-Coupe · 08-11-2014, 03:05 PM

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Well the M4 is 900lbs lighter than the M5 so it should destroy the M5.

But it doesn't have that much power to stand in front of M5

PhilT3 · 08-11-2014, 05:41 PM

I'll destroy them both on my pedal-powered HUFFY!

pkimM3r · 08-12-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilT3

I'll destroy them both on my pedal-powered HUFFY!

that's because you got that that 'training wheel traction'

PhilT3 · 08-12-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowSaloonM3

that's because you got that that 'training wheel traction'

That's a true story.

pkimM3r · 08-13-2014, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilT3

That's a true story.

please post pics of your track beast.

PhilT3 · 08-13-2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowSaloonM3

please post pics of your track beast.

who wants to race?

pkimM3r · 08-13-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilT3

who wants to race?

damn i think im gonna lose this one...i guess this is like an m3 vs m5? i should be more nimble, you know, light weight

PhilT3 · 08-13-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowSaloonM3

damn i think im gonna lose this one...i guess this is like an m3 vs m5? i should be more nimble, you know, light weight

Lol... Nice!

pkimM3r · 08-13-2014, 06:17 PM

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Lol... Nice!

ha strange i'm phil too.

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pkimM3r Banned 205 Rep 7,298 Posts Drives: m3 saloon in granny mode. Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lost angeles iTrader: (0)	why so defensive? the reasons he states are exactly why is take the m5. gotta get that lock and play with available traction!
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boramkiv Enlisted Member 9 Rep 43 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	Who is this guy? Is this one of the stigs cousins? I like this guy, especially his feedback. I also like that his reviews are not scripted. The hesitation in his explanations often times means he is really trying to relive the moment and make you understand what he really felt in each car during each lap. This is how reviewing cars needs to be done. Screw all that hub bub about which car has more gadgets, or just faster from 0-60-0-100-1/4-slalom-8 Keep these coming.
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