Turner muffler delete too loud

bkmdano · 11-06-2016, 06:42 PM

I recently replaced my oem exhaust with a turner muffler delete to try and add some rumble to the sound. Did a lot of research and understood the pros and cons. However after the replacement I've come to the following conclusion:
I like the overall tone and rumble but the sound level is extremely high. To the point where it's a bit too much. Acceleration is fine and acceptable but anytime I'm slowing down and downshifting the rumble/drone is excessive. My biggest complaint is the cold start. It's like crazy loud.i understand everyone will have their personal opinion but for me it's close to being obnoxious where it sounds like a complete aftermarket job. My goal was to find something close to OEM sound but with more rumble. With that said I don't want to go back to the old system without looking at options. My question for all of you is if adding a resonator of some kind could take down the volume level about 30%?
Has anyone tried that? Perfect scenario for me is to modify between the oem sound and the muffler delete.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

13M5F10 · 11-06-2016, 06:52 PM

You'll see a good decrease in sound if you replace the stock resonators with aftermarket.

I'm not sure though it will make much difference with the cold starts. I personally had my cold start deleted after going completely straight piped.

Eddybro · 11-06-2016, 07:21 PM

Put back on the stock exhaust. Wire open the outside valves and delete the resonator. You will get what your looking for. Something not too loud but a little more rumble with no drone.

Mpire · 11-06-2016, 07:32 PM

i think u should have went with CP exhaust

bkmdano · 11-06-2016, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddybro

Put back on the stock exhaust. Wire open the outside valves and delete the resonator. You will get what your looking for. Something not too loud but a little more rumble with no drone.

I tried wiring open the valve but that made minimal difference. Are saying removing the resonator from the stock will make the difference?

bkmdano · 11-06-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mpire

i think u should have went with CP exhaust

Sorry but what are CP exhaust?

13M5F10 · 11-06-2016, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bkmdano

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Originally Posted by Mpire

i think u should have went with CP exhaust

Sorry but what are CP exhaust?

Competition Exhaust System.

Eddybro · 11-07-2016, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bkmdano

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Originally Posted by Eddybro

Put back on the stock exhaust. Wire open the outside valves and delete the resonator. You will get what your looking for. Something not too loud but a little more rumble with no drone.

I tried wiring open the valve but that made minimal difference. Are saying removing the resonator from the stock will make the difference?

The resonator in the mid section, remove it and replace with a straight 3inch Pipe. Then wire open

bkmdano · 11-07-2016, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Eddybro

The resonator in the mid section, remove it and replace with a straight 3inch Pipe. Then wire open

Gotcha. That's a good option to think about.

e90alpinem3 · 11-07-2016, 06:13 AM

Try either stock exhaust with downpipes (more rasp for sure but tame while cruising) or the comp pack as suggested before. I have a friend that disabled the ASD and found the turner system much more doable on a daily basis.

apexlocator · 11-07-2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by e90alpinem3

Try either stock exhaust with downpipes (more rasp for sure but tame while cruising) or the comp pack as suggested before. I have a friend that disabled the ASD and found the turner system much more doable on a daily basis.

Yes, disable ASD first to see if its more manageable.

bkmdano · 11-07-2016, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

You'll see a good decrease in sound if you replace the stock resonators with aftermarket.

I'm not sure though it will make much difference with the cold starts. I personally had my cold start deleted after going completely straight piped.

How did you disable cold start? Was that a simple thing and if so do I take the car into BMW for that?
I think the first option for me is to try and disable ASD as @alexlocator suggest and also see about disabling cold start. If none of these work to my satisfaction, I'll go back to stock and tweak per other suggestions.

Thanks

Mpire · 11-07-2016, 08:21 PM

i think cold start can be disabled by flash tune.

13M5F10 · 11-07-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bkmdano

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

You'll see a good decrease in sound if you replace the stock resonators with aftermarket.

I'm not sure though it will make much difference with the cold starts. I personally had my cold start deleted after going completely straight piped.

How did you disable cold start? Was that a simple thing and if so do I take the car into BMW for that?
I think the first option for me is to try and disable ASD as @alexlocator suggest and also see about disabling cold start. If none of these work to my satisfaction, I'll go back to stock and tweak per other suggestions.

Thanks

I was flash tuned and through process they turned off cold start.

As for ASD, that will help some with the drone but will not help your cold start. I hardly ever had issues with the drone as I drove in sport plus throttle and D2/3 which kept the car out of that RPM range

TheHouseWon · 11-07-2016, 11:23 PM

Sorry to hear, dude. Start with coding out ASD as that should reduce some of the drone in the cabin.

I would consider getting a flash tune but that might be too invasive for your liking. You need to take out the ECU's and ship them to BPM or Mission Performance in SoCal. Last resort would be to get Eisenmann Sport catback and leave everything else stock (cats and resonators). I had Turner

and loved it without ASD, but it would have been way too loud after going catless. I liked Eisenmann Sport wired open with stock cats and resonators but it has proven to be too quiet for my taste. Don't get me wrong, it sounds really good but just lacks volume.

I honestly think if you code out ASD, you will at least find it tolerant in the drone zone (1600-1800 rpm). If still too loud, look into E-sport. It's pricier than Turner but it is super high quality, fits like oem, and has valves.

Text me if you want help coding it...I have a cable I can send you and a few links that will help you DIY.

DingolfingLove · 11-08-2016, 01:39 AM

I was thinking about tinkering with the exhaust - possibly getting a CP or fiddling with the muffler - but last night, drove along my street slowly, one car alarm went off on passing & then on parking (on road - London), the car alarm of the car behind went off & the neighbour ran out of his house, so I think the standard system is socially challenging enough for me !

ur20v · 11-08-2016, 04:35 AM

I am with the OP, muffler delete was obnoxious! I went with the Agency Power Ti system, I love the quality of build, value, look and most of all how nice it sounds - louder with more rumble but none of the drone from a delete or 'race' exhaust. I can start with out anoying anyone at 4am, can hold a conversation on the hands free or just chill in peace - it still sounds great from outside at idle or acceleration.

13M5F10 · 11-08-2016, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WJSM5

Personally, I love my Turner Muffler Delete, although I do fall into the "younger crowd." Not implying anything, though. OP, I would try cutting out the resonators. Anything less and you won't is happy, anything more and it'll be too loud.

It's hit it miss with the crowd. I went from turner delete to completely straight piped. After being strict piped, turner is quiet to me. Haha

Ywait · 11-08-2016, 02:37 PM

Too loud??

nice

13M5F10 · 11-08-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ywait

Too loud??

I'm running catless dp and an akra system on the m5 and I want it louder.

Hit up MSR. You'll love it. I have videos too.

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bkmdano New Member 1 Rep 9 Posts Drives: BMW M5 F10 Alpine White Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Turner muffler delete too loud I recently replaced my oem exhaust with a turner muffler delete to try and add some rumble to the sound. Did a lot of research and understood the pros and cons. However after the replacement I've come to the following conclusion: I like the overall tone and rumble but the sound level is extremely high. To the point where it's a bit too much. Acceleration is fine and acceptable but anytime I'm slowing down and downshifting the rumble/drone is excessive. My biggest complaint is the cold start. It's like crazy loud.i understand everyone will have their personal opinion but for me it's close to being obnoxious where it sounds like a complete aftermarket job. My goal was to find something close to OEM sound but with more rumble. With that said I don't want to go back to the old system without looking at options. My question for all of you is if adding a resonator of some kind could take down the volume level about 30%? Has anyone tried that? Perfect scenario for me is to modify between the oem sound and the muffler delete. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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e90alpinem3 Lieutenant 257 Rep 495 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (1)	Try either stock exhaust with downpipes (more rasp for sure but tame while cruising) or the comp pack as suggested before. I have a friend that disabled the ASD and found the turner system much more doable on a daily basis.
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TheHouseWon Colonel 644 Rep 2,039 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: SoCal iTrader: (10)	Sorry to hear, dude. Start with coding out ASD as that should reduce some of the drone in the cabin. I would consider getting a flash tune but that might be too invasive for your liking. You need to take out the ECU's and ship them to BPM or Mission Performance in SoCal. Last resort would be to get Eisenmann Sport catback and leave everything else stock (cats and resonators). I had Turner and loved it without ASD, but it would have been way too loud after going catless. I liked Eisenmann Sport wired open with stock cats and resonators but it has proven to be too quiet for my taste. Don't get me wrong, it sounds really good but just lacks volume. I honestly think if you code out ASD, you will at least find it tolerant in the drone zone (1600-1800 rpm). If still too loud, look into E-sport. It's pricier than Turner but it is super high quality, fits like oem, and has valves. Text me if you want help coding it...I have a cable I can send you and a few links that will help you DIY.
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DingolfingLove Private First Class 40 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Comp Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: London iTrader: (0)	I was thinking about tinkering with the exhaust - possibly getting a CP or fiddling with the muffler - but last night, drove along my street slowly, one car alarm went off on passing & then on parking (on road - London), the car alarm of the car behind went off & the neighbour ran out of his house, so I think the standard system is socially challenging enough for me !
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ur20v Captain 184 Rep 788 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WA Australia iTrader: (0)	I am with the OP, muffler delete was obnoxious! I went with the Agency Power Ti system, I love the quality of build, value, look and most of all how nice it sounds - louder with more rumble but none of the drone from a delete or 'race' exhaust. I can start with out anoying anyone at 4am, can hold a conversation on the hands free or just chill in peace - it still sounds great from outside at idle or acceleration.
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