Motor Trend Car of the Year - LCI M5?

[Tom C]

The caption on the Motor Trend website says:

"Our contenders are arriving by the truckloads. #MTCOTY starts this week!!!"

Usually they only include new models or ones that have made significant updates in the Motor Trend Car of the Year testing... I am thinking that this particular F10 M5 has the Competition package, otherwise the other LCI changes wouldn't have been significant enough to warrant its inclusion.

[dhirm5]

Zoom in on the pic - the tips are black chrome on that SO M5.

[Tom C]

Originally Posted by dhirm5

Zoom in on the pic - the tips are black chrome on that SO M5.

Good call!

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Ftc120

You can not be serious, the big fat heavy 2014 M 5 with artificial steering and a non connected feeling to the road ? OMG, what about the Porsche ?

Porsche is on fire right now. They are cranking out some serious machinery.
Ill take a 14 GT3 please.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Ftc120

Urban legend is that the zl1 camaro in your garage list ? Or did I read that wrong.

It's in there along with the M5.

[stealth.pilot]

Key MT Sponsor, VW probably paid MT to include the M5 CP so they can humiliate BMW by beating it with the RS7, the Panamera Turbo LCI and the GT3.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Ftc120

Wow ! Impressive ! How do you compare the two cars ?

Easy. Front end grip with the 285 from tires make under steer non existent and provides confidence.

Straight line: M5 is king. I believe the tuning on the ZL1 is holding it back. Doesn't feel like 580 hp. I can tune it for 485.00. Amazing right? Pulley change coming as well. I should be at 580 rwhp then.

Straight line is M5 owned right now.

[URBAN LEGEND]

ZL1 handles better. It wants you to go faster in the turns. M5 has understeer. Not cool in my book.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Ftc120

Between the M5 and the zl1, which one do you enjoy driving more ?

CTS V is nothing but a Camaro ZL1 with a BMW interior.

I enjoy driving both. I just park one for a week. And use the other one for work. Then the following week I switch the car out.
One week on, one week off. That's their work schedule. It's the M5 on duty this week.

Then the car that had the week off gets washed throughout the week.

[dhirm5]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Key MT Sponsor, VW probably paid MT to include the M5 CP so they can humiliate BMW by beating it with the RS7, the Panamera Turbo LCI and the GT3.

LOL - I look forward to the RS7 v M5 results. I suspect M5 CP takes this one if their recent first drive of M5 CP is any indicator.

[Bokke]

SO FTW!!

[lincvert]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Easy. Front end grip with the 285 from tires make under steer non existent and provides confidence.

285 fronts is crazy fat

[Mperial]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Key MT Sponsor, VW probably paid MT to include the M5 CP so they can humiliate BMW by beating it with the RS7, the Panamera Turbo LCI and the GT3.

You sound cynical and contemptuous toward car mags.
I agree...

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by Mperial

You sound cynical and contemptuous toward car mags.
I agree...

Hey I'm not judging. Everyone needs a revenue model. As a guy who has a 16 year career in the media industry, I would say that embedded advertising (e.g. placing an Aston Martin in a movie) that doesn't look like obvious advertising is much more effective in driving consideration than overt advertising. The VW Group has established a fantastic network of embedded advertising with the automotive press.