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      10-09-2014, 09:36 AM   #1
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Brake Fluid change for CCA Track Driving classes

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Is it madatory to change the brake fluid 6 months prior to the Track Driving classes organised by BMWCCA?

I am taking my 2014 M5 which hardly has 2.5 k miles on it ... and the class is on this Sunday/Monday... i am not sure if i will get a appointment at near by delaership..

Is it just precautionary step or is it a real must?

Thanks in advance for the replies

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Heck no. They only recommend it for those tracking their older BMW's. Yours is practically brand new. No need to change it unless you want to upgrade to a better fluid, which I do recommend if you are going to be driving on a high speed track with heavy braking. The standard brake fluid will boil pretty fast and thus brake fade ensues.
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Hello folks,


Is it madatory to change the brake fluid 6 months prior to the Track Driving classes organised by BMWCCA?

I am taking my 2014 M5 which hardly has 2.5 k miles on it ... and the class is on this Sunday/Monday... i am not sure if i will get a appointment at near by delaership..

Is it just precuatinary step or is it a real must?

Thanks in advance for the replies
You will be ok. If you would like less fade then use castrol srf. 1.5 qt with a good flush.
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I definitely recommend getting an upgraded brake fluid. You can order RBF 660 and just have someone install it. No need to do that at the dealership.. Since the boiling temperature will be much higher, there will be much less fade.
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Thanks a lot for the quick responses guys...

I am going to the introduction to track driving classes so basically Pre-Beginner class.

But after the event i will upgrade the fluid...

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Any Auto shop will do, for brake fluid change?
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Thanks a lot for the quick responses guys...

I am going for the introduction to track drivign classes so basically Pre-Beginner class.

But after the event i will upgrade the fluid...
You will be fine.
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It's not an option. In NJ you must have brake fluid less than 6 months old. If there's any water in it and you cook the fluid (which can happen on any track) you could lose the brakes completely. Don't even try it without changing the fluid. Yes, any shop can do it.
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It's not an option. In NJ you must have brake fluid less than 6 months old. If there's any water in it and you cook the fluid (which can happen on any track) you could lose the brakes completely. Don't even try it without changing the fluid. Yes, any shop can do it.
LOL! really?? and why would there be any water in it?? 15+ track days without changing fluids and I have never lost brakes. You SHOULD know when you will have need to do a cool down laps anyways.
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Yes, really. I've seen numerous stories of "new" cars hit the wall hard after losing the brakes. A little bubble of water becomes a big bubble of steam. Especially in a heavy car with so much horsepower, not worth it. CCA won't let a car without a fluid flush in the past 6 months on the track. I believe that is also the rule at NJMP in general, except for "lead and follow" sessions behind the pace car.
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Yes, really. I've seen numerous stories of "new" cars hit the wall hard after losing the brakes. A little bubble of water becomes a big bubble of steam. Especially in a heavy car with so much horsepower, not worth it. CCA won't let a car without a fluid flush in the past 6 months on the track. I believe that is also the rule at NJMP in general, except for "lead and follow" sessions behind the pace car.
you still didn't explain why there will be water in the brake lines on a NEW car that was bled from the factory properly.
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I am going to the same event, but only going Monday. I will look for you. I will be there in a Sakhir Orange F10. My instructor is Larry.

You may want to talk to Vic about this.

My car was a 3/2014 build and I am getting my fluid changed just to be sure.

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just watch out for higher temp brake fluid on CCB's.
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Yes, really. I've seen numerous stories of "new" cars hit the wall hard after losing the brakes. A little bubble of water becomes a big bubble of steam. Especially in a heavy car with so much horsepower, not worth it. CCA won't let a car without a fluid flush in the past 6 months on the track. I believe that is also the rule at NJMP in general, except for "lead and follow" sessions behind the pace car.
I would say this is far more likely to be due to pad fade due to the pad/rotors not being bedded in in a new car taken to the track. Happened to me once with my '99 AMG E55 that luckily occurred with lots of run-off at the end of the main straight. Never again.
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Thanks for the responses.
Appreciate your time.

I am plannig to go to the SummitPoint driving school in Nov.

i would ike to get my upgrade Brake Fluid this time without fail

can you pls suggest some options? castrol srf .... RBF 660 ..?

Any reputed shops in NJ?
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