M5POST
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   M5POST - BMW M5 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General BMW News and Cars Discussion

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-26-2010, 01:18 PM   #67
David1
Brigadier General
David1's Avatar
No_Country
795
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 09 E92 09 X5
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Columbus, OH

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by booner335 View Post
waiting on my letter and called the dealership to see if i was still good because my warranty just ended and im chipped and they said ill be ok. now im just waiting to see what loaner car i can get/beat on when my baby is in the shop
The pump is covered for 10 years or 110k miles so the letter is pointless. Don't leave the mods on.
__________________
2021 M2 Comp Sunset Orange |Black with orange Stitching Dakota Leather|Executive Pkg|DCT
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:21 PM   #68
vasillalov
Mad Linux Guru On The Loose
vasillalov's Avatar
1112
Rep
5,389
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2023 BMW M3  [0.00]
2008 335i E90  [8.00]
Can anyone post a link with the official recall press release?

Also, it would be nice if someone can actually scan the letter once they get it. I never receive ANY mail from BMW and I've verified 10 times and they do have my correct address..

Thanks
__________________
6MT | COBB | AR | AE | Forge DV | HPF | P3 Gauge | Hybrid Intake | O.S.Giken TCD | All M3 bits | TCKLine | StopTech | UUC | ER | SPEC
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:22 PM   #69
bigdaddycane
I even mod my cereal
bigdaddycane's Avatar
242
Rep
3,437
Posts

Drives: 11 ZCP DCT M3 14 328d 21 GT4
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Northern Va

iTrader: (53)

Garage List
My car is at the dealer right now for a brake issue and they are trying to update the software AGAIN (just done in August as a recall). They said it didn't take in August (yeah right) and have to do it again. I think they're fishing for a tune (because my car has other mods) that isn't even there.

I asked them about the fuel pump recall and they are getting flooded with calls. They said that the ABC show was suppose to air next week, but the station moved it up a week, so BMW had to scramble to get a press release out.

No plan has even gone into effect, the recall notice is just to acknowledge the problem as a recall. No idea what they are going to do.

Will probably be a long time before anything happens.
__________________
2011 Mineral White M3 ZCP - Opticoat, Ventureshield, some CF, B&B exhaust, AFE Intake Vorsteiner VFF 101s Ohlins
2014 Mineral White 328d Xdrive Wagon - Opticoat, Ventureshield, B8s, H&R, Apex SM-10s Hawk Pads
2021 718 Cayman GT4 - Fire extinguiser
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:23 PM   #70
Jason
Administrator
Jason's Avatar
United_States
40300
Rep
21,232
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by vasillalov View Post
Can anyone post a link with the official recall press release?
It's in the first post of thread
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=447262
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:26 PM   #71
therealm3
Lieutenant Colonel
630
Rep
1,649
Posts

Drives: F30 340 MSport
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CA, USA

iTrader: (7)

kind of ironic that my car is in the dealer right now for long cranks and hopefully the wastegate retrofit.

I just hope they finally come out with true fix. not some band aid software "fix".
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:27 PM   #72
David1
Brigadier General
David1's Avatar
No_Country
795
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 09 E92 09 X5
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Columbus, OH

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmer_335 View Post
This is huge... think about all the owners who have not complained to BMW or have not received a new HPFP since they bought their cars (40k according to the press release). I mean folks on here have been on top of it... but for average joe, its a victory.

Thank you "Good morning America"
All of the owners who have not complained have not done so because they don't have a problem. Think about it. This is just a law firm drumming up business. BMW's press release is to just appease the complainers. They probably had this response ready to go a year ago. It should be shame on Good Morning America.
__________________
2021 M2 Comp Sunset Orange |Black with orange Stitching Dakota Leather|Executive Pkg|DCT
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:31 PM   #73
Robert
Major General
414
Rep
6,968
Posts

Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Socal

iTrader: (1)

I am disappointed. BMW basically pulled a fast one on the public who's not abreast with hpfp. How is this any different than what they have been doing. This serves more as an public announcement than anything else. Still no disclosure of the root cause.
__________________
- There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:31 PM   #74
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
7506
Rep
19,370
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by David1 View Post
All of the owners who have not complained have not done so because they don't have a problem. Think about it. This is just a law firm drumming up business. BMW's press release is to just appease the complainers. They probably had this response ready to go a year ago. It should be shame on Good Morning America.
Shame on Good Morning America?

Dude, the fuel pump is flawed. Even with the recall, people are still going to get the same old fuel pump and will continue to have problems. Putting the issue in the public eye is a good thing. Lots of people who have had issues and replacements already probably don't even realize that the new pump could easily fail just like the original one in their cars. This will help educate the masses and maybe eventually BMW will be forced to address the issue properly.

Shame on BMW for not fixing this already, I say.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:32 PM   #75
Octet
Private First Class
United_States
11
Rep
173
Posts

Drives: 335i, E90
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (1)

I do not see what is different then has already been offered by BMW?

To me this gives the appearance of something being done...

How recent is the 933 pump and will that make a difference?
Let alone the fact that many owners on this forum have had other
related issues, let alone the wastegate.

Come on, why did BMW come out with the N55 engine? In part because of
issues with the N54.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:36 PM   #76
Black Gold
Major General
590
Rep
5,396
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Texas

iTrader: (15)

Quote:
Originally Posted by e46e92love View Post
Oh, and this is not unsafe at all. Give me a break about the "I was scared" crap. I owned one of the first 335is in the country, build date of June '06, and I had a failure while on the highway and I was never "scared". It simply went into limp mode, I pulled into the right lane and got home slowly but safely.

Love this drama crap....

Cheers,
e46e92
I am in the market looking at e92 335i's, so at this time I do not own one.

Regardless, imo your comments are ignorant and thoughtless. You feel that since you are familiar with the HPFP problems, and could handle the limp mode occuring on the highway that everyone else should handle it just as easily.

Have you no understanding that an older woman for example, who has no idea what a HPFP is or why her car would suddenly shut down while driving, could panic and potentially get into a wreck?

Not everyone expects their car to shut off in traffic and there are a million situations that could occur that would result in that situation ending very badly. Fortunately, nothing like that has occured yet.

I find it hard to believe that you or anyone else feels that it is acceptable for a car to go into a reduced power mode in traffic, and that the people driving should be able to handle it in all situations with no difficulty at all. That is shortsighted at best.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:36 PM   #77
benzo23
Colonel
benzo23's Avatar
74
Rep
2,848
Posts

Drives: 14 F30 AW MSport
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: FL

iTrader: (1)

IT DOESNT MATTER...how many new versions of the pump have been out along with new software over HOW MANY YEARS???? Its the same old run around...there just announcing this to appease the public and not tarnish there image now for short term & for future turbo powered systems that they will produce, which is going to be most of there line up for the future...I dont think anyone knows wtf the fix is. I do, and it starts with M!
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:39 PM   #78
marvinp
Captain
United_States
273
Rep
612
Posts

Drives: '18 M3, '09 135i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

Why does everyone keep saying that this is the same as what BMW has been doing all along? Did you read the announcement?

Quote:
Letters will be sent by First Class mail to owners of affected vehicles in the coming weeks, requesting the scheduling of a service appointment with an Authorized BMW Center to have the update performed.
BMW has never sent me a letter stating that I should come in to have my fuel pump replaced. All I got was a letter extending my warranty. After reading the announcement I am under the impression that BMW will send a letter to all affected owners, like a recall.
__________________
2018 F80 M3 Comp, Silverstone Metallic II, w/ black 666M (Ordered: 7/9/2017 | Pickup 9/9/2017)
1998 E36 M3, Cosmos Schwarz Metallic
2009 E82 135i, Montego Blue
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:43 PM   #79
mkoesel
Moderator
United_States
7506
Rep
19,370
Posts

Drives: No BMW for now
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Canton, MI

iTrader: (1)

True, however I think the point people are making is that there is no indication whatsoever that BMW has finally figured out how to keep the pumps from failing. So, whether they replace your pump voluntarily (which is apparently going to happen with the recall), or you keep your original until it fails (as was standard procedure before) the end result is the same: you still have an HPFP that is prone to failure.

Quote:
Originally Posted by marvinp View Post
Why does everyone keep saying that this is the same as what BMW has been doing all along? Did you read the announcement?

BMW has never sent me a letter stating that I should come in to have my fuel pump replaced. All I got was a letter extending my warranty. After reading the announcement I am under the impression that BMW will send a letter to all affected owners, like a recall.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:44 PM   #80
vasillalov
Mad Linux Guru On The Loose
vasillalov's Avatar
1112
Rep
5,389
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2023 BMW M3  [0.00]
2008 335i E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason View Post
Dude,

that's just copied and pasted in the forum. I want the OFFICIAL link to a BMW site or a news site with the official statement from BMW.

Not some copy-pasted crap on an enthusiast forum... I can't print this out and take it to my stubborn ass dealership and prove them there is a recall...
__________________
6MT | COBB | AR | AE | Forge DV | HPF | P3 Gauge | Hybrid Intake | O.S.Giken TCD | All M3 bits | TCKLine | StopTech | UUC | ER | SPEC
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:52 PM   #81
marcw
Captain
marcw's Avatar
United_States
584
Rep
695
Posts

Drives: 2021 M2 Competition
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Portland, OR USA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
The official BMW announcement can be downloaded from here http://abcnews.go.com/images/TheLaw/...FP_Recall.docx. It's a Microsoft Word document.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vasillalov View Post
Dude,

that's just copied and pasted in the forum. I want the OFFICIAL link to a BMW site or a news site with the official statement from BMW.

Not some copy-pasted crap on an enthusiast forum... I can't print this out and take it to my stubborn ass dealership and prove them there is a recall...
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:53 PM   #82
cotmfk
Major General
cotmfk's Avatar
2024
Rep
6,093
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Somewhere between DC and FL

iTrader: (12)

Well, this shows with enough pressure, we can get results.

Let's wait and see the details of the recall from a member who goes through it before we completely say BMW is doing nothing.
__________________
When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 01:55 PM   #83
Fortbimmer
Private First Class
Fortbimmer's Avatar
3
Rep
101
Posts

Drives: 335i Coupe
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Midwest

iTrader: (0)

Had my car in for a scheduled service 2 weeks ago and they installed the software upgrade. First thing I noticed was a much more "intense" priming of the fuel pump when the door in opened. As soon as you touch the door handle, there is a much louder "spooling" which I'm guessing is the fuel system priming itself.
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 02:00 PM   #84
Silver-Bolt
Captain
26
Rep
805
Posts

Drives: 2011 Z4 35is Melbourne Red
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Portland, OR

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 Z4 35is  [9.00]
So far it appears the us 2011 Z4 35is & 2011 335is owners are left out.

HerrK posted this in the Z forum and shows the evolution of the pumps.

FYI - Some chronological/pn history on the HPFP and likely to be continued with some failures already reported on the N55 engine family.

1 - 13537537320 - New Original HPFP
2 - 13517585655
3 - 13517582881
4 - 13517596123
5 - 13517594943
6 - 13517613933

The latest PN iteration

7 - 135??????402
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 02:04 PM   #85
benzo23
Colonel
benzo23's Avatar
74
Rep
2,848
Posts

Drives: 14 F30 AW MSport
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: FL

iTrader: (1)

Im am sorry to announce that the recall/ software update will do nothing. We have had this problem with the hpfp's for over 3 years. Some people are on there 4th pumps as all of you know. There have been different pumps and different software in which none have worked to solve the problem. You think bmw came up with a magical solution in only a few hours to fix this since they havent been able to fix it in almost 4 years??? Doubtful...and look there have even been hpfp failures in the new N55. Something is wrong here

Last edited by benzo23; 10-26-2010 at 02:11 PM..
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 02:22 PM   #86
CarForHire
Major
CarForHire's Avatar
United_States
29
Rep
1,309
Posts

Drives: Slow in the left lane.
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NOVA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 E90 328i  [0.00]
Could this be the end?
__________________
Race car driving is like sex...all men think they are good at it. - Jay Leno
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 02:25 PM   #87
EDM92
Colonel
EDM92's Avatar
United_States
158
Rep
2,561
Posts

Drives: Low&Slow
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Florida

iTrader: (9)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CarForHire View Post
Could this be the end?
No
__________________

Montego Blue 2007 E92 335i - ZSP / ZPP / Steptronic / Logic7
Broadway Static - CCW - Megan - Orion
Instagram: bmwforlife
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2010, 02:26 PM   #88
oasis3582
Lieutenant
oasis3582's Avatar
146
Rep
582
Posts

Drives: 2021 BMW X3 M40i
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Cincinnati, OH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by e46e92love View Post
Oh, and this is not unsafe at all. Give me a break about the "I was scared" crap. I owned one of the first 335is in the country, build date of June '06, and I had a failure while on the highway and I was never "scared". It simply went into limp mode, I pulled into the right lane and got home slowly but safely.

Love this drama crap....

Cheers,
e46e92
So, just because it doesn't apply in YOUR situation, that means it could never be so? Give me a break.
__________________
Current: 2021 BMW X3 M40i
Previous: VW GTI, Tesla Model 3 LR, Mazda MX-5 RF, Ford Mustang GT (x2), Mazda 3, BMW Z4 sDrive35i, Acura TSX, BMW 135i, Acura TSX, Honda Accord Coupe V6, Acura RDX, Pontiac GTO 6.0, Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:26 AM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST