MSR Intake

[Rockin-The-F10]

Sooo I picked up a MSR Intake. You guys are gonna freak when I see the price I paid. Got it freon a salvage yard in mchigan.. so I think you can imagine what I picked up it up for. Schwing! They clearly had no idea what the worth of the intake was.. thankfully Lol.

So I've read this is the best intake money can buy, right?
What are your thoughts/opinions on this intake fellas?
I'd love to hear some feedback on the intake... or some tips or anything really.
I'm super stoked about it. Not sure if it's true, but the guy that makes them claims it does more for performance than a tune and exhaust

[lunden]

Well, to be honest. The product is probably nice! But I think it gives more sound than it has any gains..
You could dyno your car before and after installation and confirm or bust that theory though.

[BPMSport]

An intake is never going to produce more power than a tune and exhaust setup. That's insanity.

If that was the case everyone would be gaining 100+ wheel hp from an intake.

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by Rockin-The-F10

Sooo I picked up a MSR Intake. You guys are gonna freak when I see the price I paid. Got it freon a salvage yard in mchigan.. so I think you can imagine what I picked up it up for. Schwing! They clearly had no idea what the worth of the intake was.. thankfully Lol.

So I've read this is the best intake money can buy, right?
What are your thoughts/opinions on this intake fellas?
I'd love to hear some feedback on the intake... or some tips or anything really.
I'm super stoked about it. Not sure if it's true, but the guy that makes them claims it does more for performance than a tune and exhaust

Go get a baseline dyno and after the install and adaptation get it dynod and tell us what the gains are.

Btw ... MSR has never said it has better gains than a tune.

[Lerxst M4]

Originally Posted by Rockin-The-F10

Sooo I picked up a MSR Intake. You guys are gonna freak when I see the price I paid. Got it freon a salvage yard in mchigan.. so I think you can imagine what I picked up it up for. Schwing! They clearly had no idea what the worth of the intake was.. thankfully Lol.

So I've read this is the best intake money can buy, right?
What are your thoughts/opinions on this intake fellas?
I'd love to hear some feedback on the intake... or some tips or anything really.
I'm super stoked about it. Not sure if it's true, but the guy that makes them claims it does more for performance than a tune and exhaust

Well, that is a flat out lie.

m6beast, care to comment on this guys claims of what you allegedly said?

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by Lerxst M5

Well, that is a flat out lie.

m6beast, care to comment on this guys claims of what you allegedly said?

From my testing Dyno numbers don't prove it's true potential so I've tested vbox and track to show real life results

Fully Stock F10 M5 with MSR intake only dynoed 20-30 whp/wtrq midrange
Vbox 60-130 mph before and after intake knocked off .5 seconds

Fully modded M6 with MSR intake catless DP Exhuast jb3 meth injection
dynoed before and after intake gained 30-40 whp in the midrange
"More mods the more power the intake made"

Raced at the track with another M5
M5 fully stock with MSR intake only Dyno 592 whp
1/4 11.9 119mph 2.0 60ft street tires

Average runs consistently 12.0 119mph 2.0 60ft

M5 JB3 3.5 lbs boost, BMS filters, charcoal filter delete, rpi scoops, exhaust Dyno 630whp
1/4 12.1-12.2 120 mph 2.0 60ft and best 12.0 120 mph.

This also proves how the intake performs, it showed less numbers on the Dyno then the Moded M5 but at the track running identical times with same 60ft

After we raced he wanted the intake so I installed it on his car the following week

I installed the intake on a Friday and he went to the track that wed couldn't wait and I told him the intake takes a week to two weeks to fully adapt.

Even though it wasn't fully adapted he ran 11.7 121 mph same 60 ft 2.0

Told him to go back the following wed and he ran 11.5-11.6 124-125 mph with same 60 ft no other mods other then letting intake adapt fully.

On my fully Moded M6 I was running 11.2-11.3 126 mph before intake after intake couldn't get any grip with my Toyo r888 285 30 20 but ran 11.0-11.1 127-128 mph with traction issues

Then I added 315 30 20 finally better grip running 10.9, 10.8 and best 10.7 @ 129 mph.

Here's video of the my M6 10.7 pass against the F10 M5 11.5 pass

what I've said in the past is the intake makes more power when combined with other mods making it even more efficient with less back pressure helping the intake compress even more air for example as shown between my stock M5 testing compared to my fully modded M6 testing.

For those that want to see the actual data testing Dyno, vbox and drag slips email info@mstreetracing.com

Rockin-The-F10 if you need install diagram and adaptation process for you MSR intake please let me know and I'll send it right over. Also if it needs to be upgraded or painted let me know I've redone several that wanted there's redone.

Take care

[lunden]

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

An intake is never going to produce more power than a tune and exhaust setup. That's insanity.

If that was the case everyone would be gaining 100+ wheel hp from an intake.

[TheHouseWon]

I wouldn't pay more than $750 for it. Good find, though!

[Rockin-The-F10]

Here is where m6 stated pretty much what I said.. Thanks

Another test I performed, I took my bone stock M5 other than MSR intake and raced a
modded M5 at the track. His mods BMS stage 1 3.5lb boost, E mid section, Turner
muffler delete, BMS filters, Charcoal filter delete and RPI ram air scoops."Here are our
track times with similar 60ft to take driver error out of the equation.

After our results he wanted the intake. So I installed a set on his F10 M5, from"the time he left he noticed a difference and the sound brought a smile to his face. That's all he keeps talking about, the sound and the surge of power that just never stops pulling.!
Before he added intake his best 1/4 mile time was 12.0 @ 120 mph and average runs were 12.1,12.2 @ 119/120 MPH. After his car adapted he went back to the track and ran his first pull 11.7@121mph." I told him the intake needs a good week or so to fully adapt do to the way the intake is
setup, the higher mph the more volume and velocity of air. After a week or so passed he went back to the track and ran the car again and got 11.5 @ 124/125 mph. Now you can see how it's fully adapted by his 1/4 times and mph. No other changes were done to the car other then letting the intake fully adapt.
So he went from a best 12.0@120mph to 11.5@124/125 within a week and half of adaptation. After a while he wanted more power so I raised his boost to 4.0 from 3.5 and he went back to the track hoping to get low 11’s. His best was 11.4 @ 125 mph! So this gives some insight on how much power the intake is making compared to boost increases.
Here's his Dyno with BMS 3.5 boost, turner muffler delete, E mid section, stock OEM cats, and MSR intake. I wish we had a prepost Dyno but even with that you can see it in his drag times the intake Knocked off .4-.5 seconds and went up 4-5 mph

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[Rockin-The-F10]

So I think its apparent... I NEVER made some dumbass claim as a certain genius stated.. I simply repeated what was emailed to me by the creator of the intake.

A bone stock M5/6 with just an intake beats a mildly modded M5/6 that has an EXHAUST and STAGE 1 TUNE.
Wow really weird huh LOLz.

[Rockin-The-F10]

m6beast... I need the diagram and also I will need the hardware to install. I only have the intake and filters... no clamps or anything like that.
Shall I just go to Home Depot?
Or where can get the stuff I need?

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by Rockin-The-F10

Here ya go DB!!!!
Not only was there a claim that the intake out performed the TUNE AND EXHAUST... but Also CLAIMS a HALF second shaved off the quarter.
Here ya go DB!!!


Another test I performed, I took my bone stock M5 other than MSR intake and raced a
modded M5 at the track. His mods BMS stage 1 3.5lb boost, E mid section, Turner
muffler delete, BMS filters, Charcoal filter delete and RPI ram air scoops."Here are our
track times with similar 60ft to take driver error out of the equation.

After our results he wanted the intake. So I installed a set on his F10 M5, from"the time he left he noticed a difference and the sound brought a smile to his face. That's all he keeps talking about, the sound and the surge of power that just never stops pulling.!
Before he added intake his best 1/4 mile time was 12.0 @ 120 mph and average runs were 12.1,12.2 @ 119/120 MPH. After his car adapted he went back to the track and ran his first pull 11.7@121mph." I told him the intake needs a good week or so to fully adapt do to the way the intake is
setup, the higher mph the more volume and velocity of air. After a week or so passed he went back to the track and ran the car again and got 11.5 @ 124/125 mph. Now you can see how it's fully adapted by his 1/4 times and mph. No other changes were done to the car other then letting the intake fully adapt.
So he went from a best 12.0@120mph to 11.5@124/125 within a week and half of adaptation. After a while he wanted more power so I raised his boost to 4.0 from 3.5 and he went back to the track hoping to get low 11’s. His best was 11.4 @ 125 mph! So this gives some insight on how much power the intake is making compared to boost increases.
Here's his Dyno with BMS 3.5 boost, turner muffler delete, E mid section, stock OEM cats, and MSR intake. I wish we had a prepost Dyno but even with that you can see it in his drag times the intake Knocked off .4-.5 seconds and went up 4-5 mph
REALLY STRANGE HOW ----> I <--- DIDNT CLAIM SHIT!
This was written and emailed to me by Mr.MSR himself... M6Beast.

Correct! These are the tests that I talked about earlier in my post and for those who want to see the Dyno vbox and track you can email info@mstreetracing.com and I'll send the whole data sheet.

I think what people are saying is no way an intake makes power what a tune with an exhaust. There so many stages in tunes so can't really compare to the intake. But I can tell you from my experience and my customers experience in his personal M5 the MSR intake has proven gains on Dyno vbox and track.

This is a totally different design then your typical intakes and even the one that you see lately of installing the filters in the front kidneys. These are still not setup the way the MSR intake of compressed design which is where they make their power.

I've had several customers who rushed adaptation and got too much air codes in the upper rpms. Also for those who've adapted their intake for months and never getting into fifth gear, once they hit 1/2 mile tracks they also got too much air codes do to never being adapted at such high mph. The faster you go the more air and higher velocity making endless surge of power to redline.

This is another reason dynos don't show its true potential because it's rare to find a Dyno pushing 100-150mph air like what's on the street.

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by Rockin-The-F10

m6beast... I need the diagram and also I will need the hardware to install. I only have the intake and filters... no clamps or anything like that.
Shall I just go to Home Depot?
Or where can get the stuff I need?

Email me pics of what you have also which model car and what serial number I've updated a little bit always trying to perfect the system.

[Rockin-The-F10]

The intake is in the mail... I have a 2013 M5 W/o Comp pack.
I will get pics to you when it gets here on Friday.

[MCarsFan]

Irrespective - all of us love our MSR intakes. Great design, Great sound.. Love em.

[TheHouseWon]

Are they aluminum or stainless steel? Is heat soak as much an issue as it is with the stock intake?

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

Are they aluminum or stainless steel? Is heat soak as much an issue as it is with the stock intake?

Mine are ceramic coated and I can hold my intakes after full runs. As you know, you can't touch anything under the hood let alone hold it after a few hard runs. Haha

Not sure what the material is.

[Rockin-The-F10]

Sweet intake!

[NightM]

Just curious, what did you got the intakes for.

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

Are they aluminum or stainless steel? Is heat soak as much an issue as it is with the stock intake?

They are aluminum and they don't heat soak

I did a test sitting in a parking lot for 30 Mintues in 100F outside with Ac full blast and watched intake temps rise from 120 to 150. As I left out of the parking lot I went through the gears and watched intake temps go all the way down to 115 and when I let off they inmediately went back to Orginal intake temps of 120. As for the factory intake on open throttle intake temps would rise by 5-6 degrees by each gear pull and take for ever to go back down to Orginal intake temps.

With the intake the car ran consistent no matter the weather, climate, racing at the track while even sitting there with the engine running. No more heat soak. Wether powder coated or painted the car runs consistent.

Hope this helps

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Should be 650-700HP compared to 560HP stock with the stage 1 BMS and mods.

I personally would go JB4 if it's not too late. You'll do it eventually anyways.

And end up wanting to load a tune. You'll soon realize the restrictions on not having the car tuned properly anyways.

[ur20v]

Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Should be 650-700HP compared to 560HP stock with the stage 1 BMS and mods.

I personally would go JB4 if it's not too late. You'll do it eventually anyways.

^^^ this, get the JB4 and BCM now, do it once and right... Then when you are used to it get a bench flash and meth injection.