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05-25-2012, 04:13 PM | #1 |
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BMW M Carbon Ceramic Brakes for M5 and M6 Delayed Until Next Year - Worldwide
BIMMERPOST NEWS BMW M Carbon Ceramic Brakes for M5 and M6 Delayed Until Next Year - Worldwide M5 and M6 owners-to-be will have to wait just a bit longer for upgraded stopping power. We have confirmed with BMW that the M Carbon Ceramic Brake system [full details] originally set for availability beginning with the 2013 Model Year M5 and M6 (starting July production) (see M5 Guide / M6 Guide), has been delayed until sometime in calendar year 2013. There's no indication yet of when exactly in 2013 it will become available, and the new availability date applies not just to North America, but in all markets worldwide. |
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BMW defers M5 ceramic brakes untill calendar year 2013
Carbon Ceramic Brakes won't be offered on US M5s until calendar year 2013. BMW has not confirmed when in 2013, so it's not certain if it will be available on MY2013 from January, or whether it will defer till MY2014 in July or August.
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I highly doubt this will happen as a factory option. I am sure they can be retrofitted but probably not for the asking option price of around $8000, going to guess it will cost in the range of $20,000 to retrofit. I for one am disappointed, no matter what anyone says about the "need" for ceramic breaks.
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Any chance they'll get a proper fixed caliper in back???
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Because these Brembo's where WAY more than $8,000!! http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=694545 .
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05-30-2012, 11:16 AM | #12 |
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Of COURSE the retrofit will be more expensive; the upgrade is the marginal cost over the steel brake system, but unless you can find a buyback for your (used) steel brakes when you upgrade to carbon ceramic, you're essentially ending up with both brake sets, hence the added cost.
I wouldn't recommend an aftermarket setup since I figure the ABS and DSC systems would need to be recalibrated in order to function properly with carbon ceramic given they have vastly different properties -- unless you can also find someone who knows how to code the car appropriately. $20K might be a bit high, but probably not outrageous. The carbon ceramic option on the M5/M6 was priced at $8700, which is similar to Porsche's upgrade pricing, and Porsche ceramic front rotors are $4K -- each. Double that, add the cost of rear rotors, a full set of pads, plus possibly new calipers, and I can see that reaching near $20K. In fact Porsche DOES offer a carbon ceramic retrofit kit, which might be a good reference point, but I don't have time to look its price up right now. And all of this completely ignores that point that for a street car, carbon ceramics are ALL downsides except for reduced brake dust. Otherwise, you'll be dealing with squealing, obscenely expensive brake replacement (which I suspect will actually hurt resale from prospective second owners not wanting to have that looming on the horizon), and very fragile rotors that have to be replaced at huge cost if they're nicked by road debris or while mounting/unmounting a wheel. Carbon ceramic has no place on a street car IMHO, and even track junkies on the Porsche side end up switching back to a steel after damaging or wearing out a couple rotors because of the obscene cost. A steel BBK can often deliver similar fade resistance to carbon ceramic at a fraction of the cost.
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P.S., for anyone wondering, the delay on the carbon ceramic brakes is global, not just for the US market.
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Maybe because its cheaper? And also because they dont want gold colored brakes on their car?
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Are the M5 for the US July production and scheduled for European Delivery included in this? If so what happens to those that have ordered them for Euro Delivery in September/October, will those M5 just come with the 20" and regular brakes?
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