BR tune stack with bms plus SSP 900+ ft/lbs.Torque Clutch.

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by SSPKris

Andy,

Great to see your car up and running strong. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do for you in the future.

Thank you for the business for the 16 plate clutch.

SSP

Hi Kris,

The clutches are holding very very well. Last time the stock clutch will slip once I push the NOS & also when I turn up the boost too high.

Just try the mix of 30% Toluene with 98ron(95oct) car didn't run as fast as with E85. Once I finish the tank will go back to E30 with NOS. Now my jb4 is running 0psi, will try to up boost next week.

[boots]

Andy no problems with fuel delivery on top end?

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by boots

Andy no problems with fuel delivery on top end?

Boots, so far I have no problem doing it till redline of 5th gear. Have not tried it on 6th, I'm leaving tomo to Malaysia for a drive with my friends, so let see how it goes......

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Boots, so far I have no problem doing it till redline of 5th gear. Have not tried it on 6th, I'm leaving tomo to Malaysia for a drive with my friends, so let see how it goes......

Have fun.

[ARC550]

Impressive!!
Let's see some 1/4 Runs.

You sure the stock Axels can take all that RW abuse!

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by ARC550

Impressive!!
Let's see some 1/4 Runs.

You sure the stock Axels can take all that RW abuse!

I wouldn't know, there are some X6m from pp that I heard or saw somewhere that has broken axels prob. So if u want to push more u will hv to accept the consistency unless there are upgraded axels in the market?

[ARC550]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

I wouldn't know, there are some X6m from pp that I heard or saw somewhere that has broken axels prob. So if u want to push more u will hv to accept the consistency unless there are upgraded axels in the market?

X6 snapping axles.. Ouch!

None that I am aware. You can always go costume axles and start a trend for the big Power M5/6 Guys.
I am sure with sticky tires and 800+ft torque something will snap (hope it doesn't) But hey, You have to Pay to play!

[AstonMartian777]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

I wouldn't know, there are some X6m from pp that I heard or saw somewhere that has broken axels prob. So if u want to push more u will hv to accept the consistency unless there are upgraded axels in the market?

Hey dude when you ran your e85 together with meth, how many gallons of e85 you added to full tank ? Your tank is 20 gallons as well i assume ? what did you set your meth additive to ? Have you logged ? I did 40 additive and 5 gallons of e85 and my boost targets were higher than actual boost at times.

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

Hey dude when you ran your e85 together with meth, how many gallons of e85 you added to full tank ? Your tank is 20 gallons as well i assume ? what did you set your meth additive to ? Have you logged ? I did 40 additive and 5 gallons of e85 and my boost targets were higher than actual boost at times.

Hi bro, I add about 30% of E85 to my tank. I measure by the petrol gauge on the dashboard. AFR was quite lean on that I gotten highest in 13.5+- which wasn't on the safe range(but there isn't any engine Chk light) so end up with just 20% to stay at about 13afr. I set my meth additive at 65 & the Tq was very aggressive the car would pull off & leaving the back sink in like on a drag race. What was yr actual boost & target now?

Very happy with the result & lucky I didn't sell off my piggyback & meth kit. I personally think the meth kit & extra boost from piggyback is doing very very well with the tune! Btw what meth mix r u doing now 50/50? I'm going to try 80/20 W/M or more..

[AstonMartian777]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Hi bro, I add about 30% of E85 to my tank. I measure by the petrol gauge on the dashboard. AFR was quite lean on that I gotten highest in 13.5+- which wasn't on the safe range(but there isn't any engine Chk light) so end up with just 20% to stay at about 13afr. I set my meth additive at 65 & the Tq was very aggressive the car would pull off & leaving the back sink in like on a drag race. What was yr actual boost & target now?

Very happy with the result & lucky I didn't sell off my piggyback & meth kit. I personally think the meth kit & extra boost from piggyback is doing very very well with the tune! Btw what meth mix r u doing now 50/50? I'm going to try 80/20 W/M or more..

Boost at 23 but i only did 40 additive, but my e85 was about 25% , i've realized a little less e85 is better at about 15-20% , i run 100% meth, few times it would target 23 but boost 20, i will do more logs, see how it is. i need jb4 already so i can log everything, flying blind is a little dangerous

[IANNUZZI]

Upgraded turbos , 100hp shot for power and to cool iats, upgraded dct clutches, drag radials, the fact you stated you drag 4 times a week..... Where are the 9s timeslips and the ~140mph traps.....

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Upgraded turbos , 100hp shot for power and to cool iats, upgraded dct clutches, drag radials, the fact you stated you drag 4 times a week..... Where are the 9s timeslips and the ~140mph traps.....

Andy produced some videos earlier in this post..in that humidity and heat..the numbers looked great..give him his due..

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Upgraded turbos , 100hp shot for power and to cool iats, upgraded dct clutches, drag radials, the fact you stated you drag 4 times a week..... Where are the 9s timeslips and the ~140mph traps.....

I don't think even 200 HP on top of stock (~600 HP) can put this car in that category (9s , 140mph). Keep in mind this is 4400 lb RWD car. even Aventador with 700 HP,4000 lb and AWD or McLaren MP4 with 625 HP, 3400 lb and mid engine cannot earn those numbers.
BTW, upgraded Dual clutch does not gain any thing in trap/timeslip department. It just helps the DCT to tolerate those extra power/torques.

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

Boost at 23 but i only did 40 additive, but my e85 was about 25% , i've realized a little less e85 is better at about 15-20% , i run 100% meth, few times it would target 23 but boost 20, i will do more logs, see how it is. i need jb4 already so i can log everything, flying blind is a little dangerous

U can try higher additive maybe 60, the feel is very clear I think the Tq curve is very high so be careful on the clutches. More E85(30-40%) will gain more but don't think our fuel system can handle so much for the time. Any diff when u try 100% meth with 50/50? I'm running wideband, jb4 log & dashcomm log. Everything that I can reach look fine for the time being. My boost is at about 22.5psi on dashcomm but 26.5 on jb4 log, need to find out which one is more accurate. Any run on 100-200?

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Upgraded turbos , 100hp shot for power and to cool iats, upgraded dct clutches, drag radials, the fact you stated you drag 4 times a week..... Where are the 9s timeslips and the ~140mph traps.....

Lol.....Upgraded turbo? Is still in my store.
100shot brought me down by only about 0.25sec(100-200 range) maybe not fully spray I think.
Upgraded clutch? Don't really gain on timing(maybe 0.05sec cos the gear change now has no lag: used to delay for a very very split sec.
Drag radials? I don't call my R888 a drag radials cos they r not holding at all!
Drag 4 times a week? Is on our own secret road. Have u been to Singapore? We don't hv a track to drag, the nearest is out of our country which is in Malaysia Sepang F1 track but they don't have a proper road surface set up for drag too.
For our car to do 9sec? I'm not in my dream n don't think much of us can do that with the weight at least not for the time being. Don't think anyone can do that on a normal road surface.
Why not u show us yr mod list & timing instead? Lol lol lol.,..

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

Andy produced some videos earlier in this post..in that humidity and heat..the numbers looked great..give him his due..

Bro, u don't remember him? Lol...., he is alway that kind......

[AstonMartian777]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

U can try higher additive maybe 60, the feel is very clear I think the Tq curve is very high so be careful on the clutches. More E85(30-40%) will gain more but don't think our fuel system can handle so much for the time. Any diff when u try 100% meth with 50/50? I'm running wideband, jb4 log & dashcomm log. Everything that I can reach look fine for the time being. My boost is at about 22.5psi on dashcomm but 26.5 on jb4 log, need to find out which one is more accurate. Any run on 100-200?

I do not have vbox, I've never tried 50/50, try 100% and lmk if you like it better. Thanks !

[Andym3100k]

Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

I do not have vbox, I've never tried 50/50, try 100% and lmk if you like it better. Thanks !

Yup would try 80/20 to 100mix soon after I finish my 93oct (95ron) fuel from Malayisa.

Haven't got a chance to try vp109 I think the power should be good!

[IANNUZZI]

DCT M5s are trapping 131-132mph with bms set to 3.5 and exhaust on 93. Btw, that is not ATCO. LP700s are trapping 136-137mph with 700hp, 4000lbs and the added drivetrain loss of awd. I would say a true 800hp m5 with the trickery of dct should do 140mph traps.

100hp shot on a turbo engine usually results in more than 100hp due to cooling effects, although if you are running methanol or e85 the effects may be less, however you will still get a cooling effect that is more pronounced vs an NA car.

The reason your dash command is showing 22psi and the bms is showing 26 is probably because the dcommand app reads off the elm327 interface tied into the cars computers. The bms take the signals from the boost sensors and fools the cars computer into thinking it is running stock boost ~22psi or whatever boost needed to run what the computer believes to be stock hp.

You should be getting at least a .5 reduction in 60-130mph with a true 100 shot. Something is not right with your setup.

I would disactivate methanol, nitrous, and set bms to 0 or remove bms altogether, you don't need it. You are just tricking the tune which has already messed with the stock maps and cars computer.

Check your 60-130mph the following way:

1. Tune-only
2. Tune with introduction of nitrous (50-100hp) and racing gas.

Personally, I would not be messing with nitrous and the high torque of smallish stock turbos. If I were to activate nitrous it would be gradually past the midrange at 4.5k or higher for fear of bending the rods on these cars. I don't know at which rpm you are activating just being proactive.

Anyways, this is the way I would have proceeded:

60-130mph or 1/4traps:

1. Tune-only
2. Tune-only with upgraded turbos and higher boost, more fuel, tuned for race gas.

Herein you should find your 140mph traps and high 5s 60-130mph

However I do understand that no one has programmed a tune for upgraded turbos, so that may not yet be a possibility....

[M6-Coupe]

^^^^
700 HP, 4000 lb AWD Aventador: 1/4 mile 10.9 second @133 mph
Car and Driver report sheet

I admit AWD has more drivetrain loss but has perfect launch which is very important in both trap and timeslip.

Another record for Aventador and MP4
700 HP Aventador: 10.8 @132.2 mph
600 HP MP4: 10.8 @130.7 mph
Not to mention that MP4 is about 3300 lb and RWD but rear weight bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaS7n6qKQe4


Even McLaren 650s with 3200 lb and 42/58 weight distribution (perfect launch) cannot go 1/4 mile better than 10.7 second @ 134 mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvsG0zXnLN4

So if M5 generates 800 HP at crank () , still weighs 4400 lb and is RWD. I'm sure this car has a smoky launch with lots of wheel spinning due to huge amount of torque so will lose lots of time to move and reach 1/4 mile a lot slower than 9.x S and will never trap 140. If you claimed 10.x S @ 13x, then it would be possible...

[IANNUZZI]

I trust car and driver to get the best times as well, however R&T achieved 136mph in the 1/4 with their test LP700 here:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...tador-lp700-4/

137mph here:

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/lamborg...-ar166763.html

What blows my mind is the huracan trapping 135mph with 610hp, yes lower weight but brutal 2.5s 0-60mph. The combo of dcts/scts and awd are vicious.

To be honest I doubt our cars would do 9s without modding the rear/slicks and dct, however i do believe that 140mph traps are achievable with bigger turbos and race gas..... We are already trapping 131-132mph with just piggybacks and downpipes on 91 to 94.... 100rwhp more is needed to achieve on a car of this weight, not 100 dyno hp but rwhp if u catch my drift....

Without bringing traction and the whole 1/4mile thing into the equation 140mph traps would translate to more or less high 5s 60-130mph....

[Andym3100k]

Guys let me tell you what I hv experience, if is just the tune I didn't gain any faster at all. Can only feel there is more TQ on the lower rpm, once it reached the higher rpm the car isn't really much faster. Anybody can say anything they want but bottom line I base on my Gstarz GPS gauge so nothing can hide from it.