Burger Tuning M5/M6 Intake Prototype Pics & VIDEO - Charge Pipe News as Well :)

[m5james]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I would like to see independent dyno comparison that proves this claim.

These are things we should expect before dropping a dime on his or anyones intakes, but everyone keeps pounding the pavement thinking that because it costs a lot that it just must be good. I'm eager to see side-by-side comparisons as well.

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by DCT OFF

My MSR intake dropped my 1/4 mile by .4.5 seconds and gained 4-5 mph,my average runs were 12.1 and best 12.0 with 119-120 mph and 2.0 sixty ft,after intake and two weeks of adaptation I got a 11.5,11.6 with 124 -125 mph and sane 60 ft.

Intake only?

No piggyback or ecu right?

[Msizzle]

Originally Posted by DCT OFF

My MSR intake dropped my 1/4 mile by .4.5 seconds and gained 4-5 mph,my average runs were 12.1 and best 12.0 with 119-120 mph and 2.0 sixty ft,after intake and two weeks of adaptation I got a 11.5,11.6 with 124 -125 mph and sane 60 ft.

not sure how you managed that but with all things being equal such as weather and your skill level you would probably need upwards of 100whp to pick up 5mph. With all the crazy dyno numbers with tunes and other mods only a coupe of cars have broken 130. An intake even if it was 2 tubes that led right into the manifold with no filters hardly can make 1 psi below 120mph. There are cars adding 3-4psi with tunes that don't get 5mph extra

[DCT OFF]

Originally Posted by Msizzle

not sure how you managed that but with all things being equal such as weather and your skill level you would probably need upwards of 100whp to pick up 5mph. With all the crazy dyno numbers with tunes and other mods only a coupe of cars have broken 130. An intake even if it was 2 tubes that led right into the manifold with no filters hardly can make 1 psi below 120mph. There are cars adding 3-4psi with tunes that don't get 5mph extra

My mods was stock downpipes,BMS set at 3.5,Turner axle back exhaust ,R888 tires and running 93 octane averaging 12,s.After a week with MSR intake my first run was 11.7@121mph with a 60ft of 2.0,once fully adapted I went back to the track and improved my time 11.5@124mph and best 11.4@125mph,so once again the intake knocked off .5 seconds and gained 4-5 mph.Another reason I got the intake was I met M6beast at the track and we were running identical times,he even got a quicker time than me at 11.9@119 mph,I ask him what he had and he said all he was running was his intake.Our 60fts were identical except my mods.He told me he did testing with Vbox 60-130 test on the intake and knocked off .5 seconds after adaptation,I didn't believe him either.So after installing the intake I became a believer,you can hit him up he has so much testing on the intake Dyno ect,enjoy.

[DCT OFF]

Originally Posted by IANNUZZI

Intake only?

No piggyback or ecu right?

Piggyback 3.5 at the time

[MpowerMike]

Any updates on the Intake kit?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by MpowerMike

Any updates on the Intake kit?

Still few weeks away

[mike@x-ph.com]

Its almost here

[m5james]

A few weeks away...1.5 months ago.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by m5james

A few weeks away...1.5 months ago.

It took longer than expected
But I can promise you this time, it will be released very soon

[mike@x-ph.com]

Intake and charge pipe should be released by the weekend

[allmotor_2000]

Intake wars.....

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Intake wars.....

LOL

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Intake wars.....

Hahaha, I'd still love to see dyno numbers on a stock vehicle with both intakes (after properly adapted).

[m5james]

Ultimately this needs to happen regardless. Maybe Burger will step up and purchase MSR's to prove who's is better.

[allmotor_2000]

There is a big myth on adaptation - yes, car needs to adapt but it happens very quickly. AFR targets are what they are... car will provide more fuel instantly via STFT and then LTFT's will adjust.

It's like turning up boost on the dyno; it's not like you get the power a week later..?!

IMHO, any intake is going to have a tough time making a significant delta over stock (with charcoal delete and K&N's.

I have tried various intakes and presently using the stock system.

[Msizzle]

I'm getting it for the sound don't care about a few hp, I just can't justify the cost of msr

[m5james]

I completely believe that, which is why my biggest motivator for an intake is simply to hear the turbo and BOV's...too bad they're so expensive, but MSR seems to be the best at that since it puts the filters in front of the radiator.

[Msizzle]

Also if you think about how a turbocharged engine works, all this crap about ram air effect of the msr is crap in my opinion. Under boost The car sucks harder than the wind blows if you look it that way, even in a NA car the engines natural vacuum would have to be over come before a "ram air" effect would make power, to produce even 1 psi you would have to go over 120mph. So the only power an intake can make especially on a dyno is the restriction a stock intake can cause, how that gets to 30 or 50 or 80whp like some people claim is beyond me. I think 5-15whp tops for any intake.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by combatbmw

Too bad they can't sell anything to anyone in california.

Just buy it from someone else

[combatbmw]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Just buy it from someone else

No way, If a business doesn't want to sell to local customers then I don't support it.

Plenty of companies sell in California to California residents and specify its "off road only".

Also have other reasons, I will keep to myself.

[Dracon]

BMS released their pricing for the intake and chargepipes.

$229 for the chargepipes
$429 for the intake
$599 for the intake+chargepipes package

The $229 and $429 are introductory pricing but they don't say what the regular pricing will be on them afterwards.