So Surprised No F80 M3 vs F10 M5 races out yet!! Looked everywhere -:)

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Whoops!

http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/07/25/2...tch-in-france/

[soooma]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

http://www.gtspirit.com/2014/07/25/2...tch-in-france/

Hope driver is ok
And the one in Munich who hit 2 trees was even worse, M4 is a seriously Fast car and even Ex- M3/M4 E9x owners need to be aware of the risks and how much power reserve this car has which I have been preaching and complained about with my M5 several times but I believe after owning the car for a while you kinda get a feel for the when, how and where to push it and actually still make it afterwards and get to see your family again which was a serious concern everytime I was behind the wheel at first! ! -

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by soooma

Hope driver is ok
And the one in Munich who hit 2 trees was even worse, M4 is a seriously Fast car and even Ex- M3/M4 E9x owners need to be aware of the risks and how much power reserve this car has which I have been preaching and complained about with my M5 several times but I believe after owning the car for a while you kinda get a feel for the when, how and where to push it and actually still make it afterwards and get to see your family again which was a serious concern everytime I was behind the wheel at first! ! -

lol ... That's why I asked you to be careful months ago bro

[soooma]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

lol ... That's why I asked you to be careful months ago bro

Hey M6-Coupe,
How mucy heavier Vert M6 vs yours? 4200lbs vs?

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by soooma

Hey M6-Coupe,
How mucy heavier Vert M6 vs yours? 4200lbs vs?

According to BMWUSA 253lb! ( 4255 vs 4508)

[soooma]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

According to BMWUSA 253lb! ( 4255 vs 4508)

That is a lot!!
What the heck?
That will be a wash for the smaller body -
No M6-Convertible for me then
I was seriously thinking of it as next car?
Any figures
Like better than M5?

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by soooma

That is a lot!!
What the heck?
That will be a wash for the smaller body -
No M6-Convertible for me then
I was seriously thinking of it as next car?
Any figures
Like better than M5?

well, I had two reasons not getting M6 Convertible. First, the soft top that I don't like! Second, it's heavy and not too fast! The Motor trend guy got 0-60 in 3.9 second while M5 can run in 3.7 second! The longer run like 1/4 mile or 1 mile is even worse because of the soft top makes the car less aerodynamic!
Speaking M5, I really don't need 4 door and that's why I got Coupe... my both 650i were coupe also, but If I wouldn't want coupe, I would definitely go for M5! neither M6 convertible nor M6 GC! I admire both of them but not my taste!

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Meanwhile, enjoy your scientific Youtube videos

lol... Looks like other people just found to enjoy too

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1014938

[soooma]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

lol... Looks like other people just found to enjoy too

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1014938

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Boss330

In the test by Autocar they measured 0-1000m in 21,9 @ 155MPH. They used 20,6s to 150MPH.

Which of these times are more representative for the M4 is still to early to know. But Auto Bild Sportscars measured the 0-1000m in 21,76s.

As said previously; In my opinion a instrumented test is far more reliable than a speedometer video on Youtube... Especially when we have two instrumented tests reporting very close times of 21,9s and 21,76s respectively.

And we also have a Vbox 0-1000m time of 22.0s @ 246,4km/h here:

Originally Posted by Boss330

So I guess both Autocar, Auto Bild and that M3 owner in Abu Dhabi have conspired to report 0-1000m times of 21,76s, 21,9s and 22s then...

Oh, and none of the quoted times for the 0-1000m comes from Sport Auto BTW...

Originally Posted by Boss330

M4 does 1/4-mile in 12,3s @ 120,9MPH

0-1000m (1km) in 21,9s @ 155,3MPH

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showp...postcount=6445

German Magazine Auto Bild Sportscars did the 1/4-mile in 12,05s and 0-1000m in 21,76s...

Boss, looks like the numbers you posted are pretty much accurate. Watch this video I saw it in M3/M4 forum today:

0-30 mph in 2 second
0-60 mph in 4.1 second
0-100 mph in 8.6 second
0-400 m in 12.4 second
0-1000 m in 22.1 second

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Boss, looks like the numbers you posted are pretty much accurate. Watch this video I saw it in M3/M4 forum today:

0-30 mph in 2 second
0-60 mph in 4.1 second
0-100 mph in 8.6 second
0-400 m in 12.4 second
0-1000 m in 22.1 second

Thanks for the video

Seems it's pretty consistent between the various tests.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Boss, looks like the numbers you posted are pretty much accurate. Watch this video I saw it in M3/M4 forum today:

0-30 mph in 2 second
0-60 mph in 4.1 second
0-100 mph in 8.6 second
0-400 m in 12.4 second
0-1000 m in 22.1 second

But look at car and drivers recent test . Those European numbers are wayyyy faster up top . ( press car )??
0-100 in 9.2 seconds
12.4 @116 mph
0-150 mph in 23.3 seconds

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

But look at car and drivers recent test . Those European numbers are wayyyy faster up top . ( press car )??
0-100 in 9.2 seconds
12.4 116 mph
0-150 mph in 23.3 seconds

Perhaps the different transmission might account for that...

The C&D was with a manual and the EVO was with the DCT. BMW also claims faster times up top for the DCT. Faster shifting and one more gear ratio to maximize gearing for acceleration I guess.

The EVO times are VERY close to the other DCT times (on customer cars) we discussed earlier

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Perhaps the different transmission might account for that...

The C&D was with a manual and the EVO was with the DCT. BMW also claims faster times up top for the DCT. Faster shifting and one more gear ratio to maximize gearing for acceleration I guess.

The EVO times are VERY close to the other DCT times (on customer cars) we discussed earlier

The MT times from Sport auto were much faster . Especially trap speed .

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

The MT times from Sport auto were much faster . Especially trap speed .

MT times from Sport Auto?

I haven't seen any Sport Auto manual transmission 1/4 mile times

Do you have a link to those times?

Their Supertest car was a DCT car. And they don't test/post 1/4 mile. So there are no 1/4 mile times there, nor trap speed...

(I can't find a MT 6 test in my Sport Auto magazines with 1/4 mile times and trap speeds. They have only tested one MT AFAIK, and that was the comparison with the E30 M3 DTM. There are no 1/4 mile times in that test)

Could you possibly be thinking about a different magazine?

EDIT

The closest I get is this AMuS test of a MT 6 car:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=998419

This did 12,3 @ 191km/h or 118,7MPH

But, the EVO video didn't have a trap speed. Which trap speeds are you comparing here?

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Boss330

MT times from Sport Auto?

I haven't seen any Sport Auto manual transmission 1/4 mile times

Do you have a link to those times?

Their Supertest car was a DCT car. And they don't test/post 1/4 mile. So there are no 1/4 mile times there, nor trap speed...

(I can't find a MT 6 test in my Sport Auto magazines with 1/4 mile times and trap speeds. They have only tested one MT AFAIK, and that was the comparison with the E30 M3 DTM. There are no 1/4 mile times in that test)

Could you possibly be thinking about a different magazine?

EDIT

The closest I get is this AMuS test of a MT 6 car:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=998419

This did 12,3 @ 191km/h or 118,7MPH

But, the EVO video didn't have a trap speed. Which trap speeds are you comparing here?

I'm sorry I was thinking of the Automotorsport manual test .

[soooma]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

But look at car and drivers recent test . Those European numbers are wayyyy faster up top . ( press car )??
0-100 in 9.2 seconds
12.4 116 mph
0-150 mph in 23.3 seconds

So these are MT numbers ?
Anybody knows what DCT numbers are?