12-31-2014, 11:45 AM | #45 |
Lieutenant
98
Rep 550
Posts |
Overheard someone describe it as "gt3 is half the car of an m5 at 3/4th the weight, why race the two". Description not too far off imho. Someone was talking about the "stance" vis-a-vis the m5.. highly subjective but I like the m5 stance better than that of any rounded/egg-shelled legendary porsche 911. Both ferrari and lamborghini make sharper looking performance cars. Heck I would even trade my m5 for the older f430 scuderia. To each their own.
__________________
2014 AW F10 M5, mostly stock
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-31-2014, 05:52 PM | #46 |
Captain
67
Rep 704
Posts |
Cold list
So you actually prefer the GT3 over the MAC ? I've been trying to justify buying a 991 GT3 and I don't find it better than my MAC. While it does many things real well and even better than MAC, I find the MAC so much better overall as a daily. Low end torque, suspension adjustment, great handling , interior comfort/ layout and fast as hell. Oh and all the looks too... While the GT3 has a better drive feel. I'm not always driving in a canyon. Mind you if I didn't have a 997 GT3 I wouldn't be so torn. I've driven the 991 GT3 6x and just can't pull the trigger to either replace my MAC or 997 with a 911 GT3. Real problems I know. |
Appreciate
0
|
12-31-2014, 07:29 PM | #47 | |
Brigadier General
154
Rep 3,041
Posts |
Quote:
Depends. Overall, I gravitate towards the GT3 for DD. In fact, hands down it's not even close. I drive it everywhere. I don't ever drive canyons, etc. like Vic. I am in suburban East Cobb (Marietta) GA about 20 minutes NW of Atlanta. It does not do EVERYTHING better than the MAC for sure. I would never compare speed of course. The MAC is just blistering fast. And of course the looks of the MAC and the attention it gets-lol! Really nothing like it. I do feel so much more connected to the GT3 than I do the MAC. I don't know. I have a sort of affinity with the P cars. Something about them makes them feel just right. In addition, as you well know, the GT3 gives you that raw, mean feel. I honestly cannot get enough of this car. Few cars have ever made me feel this way and the GT3 tops the list. The MAC of course is utterly amazing as well. I just find the GT3 to be more fun to zip around town in. Now, if I'm going to shows or high speed runs or sunny day drives then the MAC is the easy choice. I like that they are so different. That's the beauty of owning them both. If I were you I would have ZERO issue getting rid of the 997 for the 991. Admittedly, I have never driven a 997 GT3 so I may be talking out of my butt here, but from limited seat time in other 997 variants, I can tell you that the 991 is a COMPLETELY different car. The chassis is amazing. rock solid and confidence inspiring. I never liked the 997 models. Seemed way too "simple" to me. Hard to explain. I just felt like the 991 developed Porsche into a more complete car and it moved me into the brand. LOL-I know. These problems are terrible. Me and a couple of buddies were talking at Ferrari of Atlanta today and all three of us were alternating whining about how we needed to make some car decisions. One guy says "Man, this conversation is so wrong. People would smack us!" Collectively we own 2 991 GT3s, 2 650Ss, 1 Aventador Roadster, 1 Aventador Coupe, 1 Huracan and a few more-hahahahaha!
__________________
2016 McLaren 675LT - Chicane Grey 2016 Corvette Z07 - Artic White 2016 BMW F86 X6M - Black Sapphire Metallic |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-31-2014, 08:07 PM | #48 | |
Lieutenant General
19365
Rep 10,166
Posts |
Quote:
Niko I don't have much MP124C seat time but if it takes 6 times for you and you don't feel it... you don't feel it. We all have had amazing cars and know our own wants and needs. While you are, arguably, in the minority in not feeling the GT3 you probably have given your self all the opportunities you could to flip into it. Is your car Mac really faster than the GT3? You might have the subjectives in your favor on quartermile and high end speed (0-60 is close) but the rest is all "feel". Driving feel can be aligned with both canyons and the highway or even South Coast Highway Even you said it has the better feel... and it has better sound too at high rpms. I could have spent the same money and got a 13 Mac and no way would that happen. This might not be the right car for you and that's ok... you have done the drives.
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-31-2014, 10:30 PM | #49 | ||
Brigadier General
154
Rep 3,041
Posts |
Quote:
And yes-lol! His 12C is WAY faster than the GT3. I know what he's going through.you get so used to that crazy power that it's hard to fall in love with something slower. Even though he's got the 997, I think it's going to be a hard switch for him. That's why I said I would trade the 997 for the 991. I did not tell him to change the 12C for the GT3. He would miss his 12C I think. I was commenting today that when I get in my 650S after driving my GT3 for a while I think to myself "this thing is really fast". Then I realize that I've only got the pedal halfway down! See, I go through these phases too. I'm driving the Porsche all the time and then I think that I could do without the McLaren. But then I get in my McLaren for three days in a row and don't think I ever want to get out of it either. They're both such different cars. One turbo and one normally aspirated. It's such different ends of the spectrum but yet so similarly fun to drive. To me the McLaren is by far the most fun ultra-performance car to drive. The Porsche is by far the most fun little race car to drive day to day.
__________________
2016 McLaren 675LT - Chicane Grey 2016 Corvette Z07 - Artic White 2016 BMW F86 X6M - Black Sapphire Metallic |
||
Appreciate
0
|
01-01-2015, 01:24 AM | #50 |
Savoir Faire
74
Rep 1,772
Posts |
GT3s trap 120s, so it would be a close one vs a stock F10 from a roll. Have a feeling the M5 would edge it out, may be wrong though. I'm game to run one!
__________________
Current: Alpine White F10 M5|H&R springs|12mm/10mm spacers|Eisenmann Race
Sold:Imola Yellow RS4-KW V3|MTM 10mm spacers|Hotchkis rear sway bar|APR Stage 1|Milltek Catless|RNS-E|Euro RS4 Flat bottom Steering Wheel Sold:E46 323i |
Appreciate
0
|
01-01-2015, 02:08 AM | #51 | |||
Captain
67
Rep 704
Posts |
Quote:
997 is such a special car in p world and damn thing is appreciating makes it hard to jump. I do have a E93 M3 that I could dump to get 997 gt3...wife-mobile, she's been driving my M6 GC anyway. |
|||
Appreciate
0
|
01-01-2015, 03:09 AM | #53 |
Colonel
633
Rep 2,253
Posts |
Stop talking cars. Partied all night 45th floor in Manhattan. Happy 2015 speed wins.
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-01-2015, 11:07 AM | #54 |
Lieutenant General
19365
Rep 10,166
Posts |
Happy NY Henry Bimmer6
I never knew faster was better? I need to sell the GT3 asap. Afterall its going to be worth more than a car double its price in half a year LOL. (I joke slightly). But I have gone from cars trapping 130's with my modded GTR and heavily modded 996 TT (Turbos, Exhaust, ECU, Etc) to cars that just drive great (the 996 actually was amazing for its time) like the R8, 458, C63 Black, and the GT3. And in reality they are not slow in real world situations. My TT Benzes all run high 12X's and I have no doubt my 991 TT-S with exhaust and GIAC did too... but the GT3 is the slower and better car IMHO.
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black Last edited by Vic55; 01-01-2015 at 11:23 AM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
01-01-2015, 03:05 PM | #55 | |
Brigadier General
154
Rep 3,041
Posts |
Quote:
Seriously, I have come to the same realization. Faster isn't necessarily better. These cars are so much faster than most on the road that you rarely push them to the limit. I enjoy them for the overall experience. GT3 wins by a nose at the moment.
__________________
2016 McLaren 675LT - Chicane Grey 2016 Corvette Z07 - Artic White 2016 BMW F86 X6M - Black Sapphire Metallic |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-01-2015, 08:23 PM | #56 | |
Lieutenant General
19365
Rep 10,166
Posts |
Quote:
The 458 is softer than before but I didn't buy it for the resale. I bought it for the sound, looks, and normally aspirated brilliance. I would never pay a quarter mill plus for a car and expect it to maintain equity.
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-01-2015, 09:25 PM | #57 |
Major
144
Rep 1,440
Posts |
About time
__________________
- Frozen Grey F10 M5 DCT
- Rosso Corsa 458 Speciale Sold - Frozen Grey E92 M3 Sold |
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 07:45 AM | #58 | |
Brigadier General
154
Rep 3,041
Posts |
Quote:
I know you didn't buy the 458 with any concern for resale because with these 228 for sale http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...8-Italia-d2064 it's gonna hurt a LOT of Ferrari owners.. You will likely do fine because it's not a high MSRP car. Soft like a down pillow that makes you sleep better at night?...I jest...not at all...well, sort of....maybe. Oh well, glad we are in the same boat. Buying them for the fun and not as some sort of investment. It's the right thing to do.
__________________
2016 McLaren 675LT - Chicane Grey 2016 Corvette Z07 - Artic White 2016 BMW F86 X6M - Black Sapphire Metallic Last edited by ColdList; 01-02-2015 at 08:24 AM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 07:48 AM | #59 |
Brigadier General
154
Rep 3,041
Posts |
LOL-turbo fever man.
Speciale is next...ooops. Did I say that? Seriously, I think I might be able to get a 1st year 458T. Might go that route too.
__________________
2016 McLaren 675LT - Chicane Grey 2016 Corvette Z07 - Artic White 2016 BMW F86 X6M - Black Sapphire Metallic |
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 07:50 AM | #60 |
Major
144
Rep 1,440
Posts |
From what I have been reading, there isn't any Speciales lying around to be had. A small handful are selling above MSRP.
__________________
- Frozen Grey F10 M5 DCT
- Rosso Corsa 458 Speciale Sold - Frozen Grey E92 M3 Sold |
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 07:52 AM | #61 |
Brigadier General
154
Rep 3,041
Posts |
Gorgeous one here I could have bought yesterday. They are around.
__________________
2016 McLaren 675LT - Chicane Grey 2016 Corvette Z07 - Artic White 2016 BMW F86 X6M - Black Sapphire Metallic |
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 08:28 AM | #62 |
Major
144
Rep 1,440
Posts |
The one car I want to add most to the family is the Aston Vanquish. Never mind it's not particularly fast or cutting edge. It's one sweet sounding and gorgeous car. I am planning to get it this year after I get some essential expenses out of the way.
__________________
- Frozen Grey F10 M5 DCT
- Rosso Corsa 458 Speciale Sold - Frozen Grey E92 M3 Sold |
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 09:12 AM | #63 | |
Brigadier General
154
Rep 3,041
Posts |
Quote:
I am going to put a little extra money in the bank before I do anything else as well.
__________________
2016 McLaren 675LT - Chicane Grey 2016 Corvette Z07 - Artic White 2016 BMW F86 X6M - Black Sapphire Metallic |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 09:30 AM | #64 | |
Lieutenant General
19365
Rep 10,166
Posts |
Quote:
The Speciale will hold its value for some time since there are no more allocations.
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 09:38 AM | #65 | |
Lieutenant General
19365
Rep 10,166
Posts |
Quote:
There are already 47 2015 650S cars on this site too!!! Damnnnnnnnnnn. There are two Speciales both well over msrp as expected. I think Ill get a California, those cars are the softest of the F car lot... but I like them with the top up and can steal a newer model. I really have been looking into this car but it would need wheels and a Novitec drop.
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black Last edited by Vic55; 01-02-2015 at 09:50 AM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
01-02-2015, 09:45 AM | #66 |
Major
144
Rep 1,440
Posts |
Vic, the Speciale is a car that will suit u just fine I reckon
__________________
- Frozen Grey F10 M5 DCT
- Rosso Corsa 458 Speciale Sold - Frozen Grey E92 M3 Sold |
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|