dyno says 781 whp!!!!!

[dmetuning]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Totally agree people start slapping 3076R,35R,37 sized turbos on these cars or something its not if you might hit a breaking point its when.

My recommendation if you're having clutch issues call the master. John Shep is doing DCT BMW trans [m4 record] My shep trans stage 4 has been out of this world.

I have a Dodson Stage 2 Clutch pack that was done by Shep on my F10 M5. It is truly amazing how well it holds the torque.

[Msizzle]

guys come on, every rwd big hp car has traction issues, we didn't invent this. New vette's,mustangs,hellcats, and many other modded rwd cars have gone into the 10's. We have all these cars that have north of 800bhp and 1 10 second slip in the world. Our cars are monsters no doubt, but some of these dynos are optimistic

[Drm5]

Also please notice that the last 2 dyno were on 5 th gear.. which I don't think many of are doing pulls on 5th gear...!!!
I posted the results trying to see if anybody else has seen there transmission go into limp mode!!

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Msizzle

guys come on, every rwd big hp car has traction issues, we didn't invent this. New vette's,mustangs,hellcats, and many other modded rwd cars have gone into the 10's. We have all these cars that have north of 800bhp and 1 10 second slip in the world. Our cars are monsters no doubt, but some of these dynos are optimistic

A Stock Z06 ran a 10.4@ 131 mph on the stock PSS last week at a real drag strip ! 780whp DCT M5 0r 6 should be trapping 140's at the strip well into the 10's regardless of traction ! Vbox 1/4 mile speeds don't mean shit, it's not an avg last 60ft speed like at a dragstrip .

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

A Stock Z06 ran a 10.4@ 131 mph on the stock PSS last week at a real drag strip ! 780whp DCT M5 0r 6 should be trapping 140's at the strip well into the 10's regardless of traction ! Vbox 1/4 mile speeds don't mean shit, it's not an avg last 60ft speed like at a dragstrip .

137-139. 140 for this weight is a challenge. A Z06 is nearly 900lb lighter! Will have some results Dec 12th at the strip.

Meanwhile enjoy the spanking of the Z06...

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

137-139. 140 for this weight is a challenge. A Z06 is nearly 900lb lighter! Will have some results Dec 12th at the strip.

Meanwhile enjoy the spanking of the Z06...

I can't what to see your time and trap at the strip lol. That's the most cherry picked vid I've ever seen .

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

I can't what to see your time and trap at the strip lol. That's the most cherry picked vid I've ever seen .

Search for the shift-s3ctor thread for more videos. 168 mph in the 1/2

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Search for the shift-s3ctor thread for more videos. 168 mph in the 1/2

I'm not doubting your car is faster up top than a stock Z06 ( it better be ) . But that run is totally not representative of what would happen from a dig and you know it . With just intake pulley and a tune there are z06's in the 9's .

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

I'm not doubting your car is faster up top than a stock Z06 ( it better be ) . But that run is totally not representative of what would happen from a dig and you know it . With just intake pulley and a tune there are z06's in the 9's .

exactly lol

"I have 800whp but its traction issues" doesn't really cut it when plenty of other fat cars have come and gone faster than our platforms 1 real time slip. I was all excited a year ago when we were seeing 600s, 650s, 700, but now seeing 700+ every other time slip with little to no real world data is meaning less and less. I don't care fi someone got on here and did a 900whp dyno pull with video and then walked over to the computer. Without data backing it up. Becoming less and less meaningful.

You, green, and M6beast have carried the platform in providing LEGIT data. So I'm unimpressed by these random dynos.. And honestly the data isn't even coming from known shops like ESS, AMS, etc. its coming from shops that I've never heard of. When I talk to Eric@Ams about it and them saying the gains from turbos weren't their to stay in the S63tu market. I 100% believe them for now [at least until internals are touched]

Thats my buddies 3000lb gutted evo getting 60fted by a 6klb truck lmao so lets not hide behind weight and traction issues.

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

exactly lol

"I have 800whp but its traction issues" doesn't really cut it when plenty of other fat cars have come and gone faster than our platforms 1 real time slip. I was all excited a year ago when we were seeing 600s, 650s, 700, but now seeing 700+ every other time slip with little to no real world data is meaning less and less. I don't care fi someone got on here and did a 900whp dyno pull with video and then walked over to the computer. Without data backing it up. Becoming less and less meaningful.

You, green, and M6beast have carried the platform in providing LEGIT data. So I'm unimpressed by these random dynos.. And honestly the data isn't even coming from known shops like ESS, AMS, etc. its coming from shops that I've never heard of. When I talk to Eric@Ams about it and them saying the gains from turbos weren't their to stay in the S63tu market. I 100% believe them for now [at least until internals are touched]

Thats my buddies 3000lb gutted evo getting 60fted by a 6klb truck lmao so lets not hide behind weight and traction issues.

Problem is putting the power down - haven't figured it out in a way that won't break something (small rear brakes and slicks). Car makes power, no doubt. Someone else can experiment breaking axles and their diffs. And turbos will provide some benefit but unknown till we have a true stage 2 (S1 being hybrid).

Here is another video of me getting killed at the dig and reeling in a tuned/exhaust Hurracan. That car runs mid 10's at 136. 1/4 mile is difficult in this car and it's about getting the right tire. On this run the 315/30/20 R888's were spinning literately the first 1/8 mile. Will continue working on it but ain't easy.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Problem is putting the power down - haven't figured it out in a way that won't break something (small rear brakes and slicks). Car makes power, no doubt. Someone else can experiment breaking axles and their diffs. And turbos will provide some benefit but unknown till we have a true stage 2 (S1 being hybrid).

Here is another video of me getting killed at the dig and reeling in a tuned/exhaust Hurracan. That car runs mid 10's at 136. 1/4 mile is difficult in this car and it's about getting the right tire. On this run the 315/30/20 R888's were spinning literately the first 1/8 mile. Will continue working on it but ain't easy.

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Thats racing though. I snapped my driveshaft on the GTR OEM part lol 2k fix from shep, built up more. The more power you make the car will find the weakest component and break it. Everyone wants power but nobody wants to pay to play.

Thats why I've continued to stress people need to go to John for their transmissions, and DSS axles and the car aside from engine internals which who knows their limits. Should be damn near bullet proof.

Shep trans +DSS should be perfectly safe for 600-800whp lol GTRs running 7s with that combo.

And unless BMWS made extremely weak DIFFS they shouldn't be a weak point at 600-800whp... Again considering most of these dynos I'm sorry to say are glorified and not a true 800. M6beast didn't break it Green didn't break it and GMD didn't so I doubt most here would break it unless you got wheel hop or something catastrophic. Good axles and tires that have some give should be fine for stock diff until you really start seeing true 800+whp and torque is usually what kills differentials so to be between 570-670wtrq that shouldn't kill those beefy M diffs

[DrewBert]

A 4x4 diesel... Of course it's not gonna have traction issues

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by DrewBert

A 4x4 diesel... Of course it's not gonna have traction issues

2000hp it will lol

[Msizzle]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

A Stock Z06 ran a 10.4@ 131 mph on the stock PSS last week at a real drag strip ! 780whp DCT M5 0r 6 should be trapping 140's at the strip well into the 10's regardless of traction ! Vbox 1/4 mile speeds don't mean shit, it's not an avg last 60ft speed like at a dragstrip .

I agree yet only 1 has went even 130, traction issues help mile and hour not hurt it

[Msizzle]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

exactly lol

"I have 800whp but its traction issues" doesn't really cut it when plenty of other fat cars have come and gone faster than our platforms 1 real time slip. I was all excited a year ago when we were seeing 600s, 650s, 700, but now seeing 700+ every other time slip with little to no real world data is meaning less and less. I don't care fi someone got on here and did a 900whp dyno pull with video and then walked over to the computer. Without data backing it up. Becoming less and less meaningful.

You, green, and M6beast have carried the platform in providing LEGIT data. So I'm unimpressed by these random dynos.. And honestly the data isn't even coming from known shops like ESS, AMS, etc. its coming from shops that I've never heard of. When I talk to Eric@Ams about it and them saying the gains from turbos weren't their to stay in the S63tu market. I 100% believe them for now [at least until internals are touched]

Thats my buddies 3000lb gutted evo getting 60fted by a 6klb truck lmao so lets not hide behind weight and traction issues.

You are 100% right, a gtr weighs a tick under 4000lb, it of course has superior traction but plenty of stock gtrs have 10second slips with about 480whp, you are telling me with 2-300whp more our can't can't easily do it!?!? A hellcat weighs more than our car and is rwd and several of them have gone 10's and I have seen 127traps stock. 2o15 Mustangs have gone 9's and they are rwd and heavy. So we need to stop talking about tractions issues and really look that these supposed "proven" numbers. Trap speeds don't lie, if we have a car that traps 118-124 stock and you add upwards of 250whp more then the cars should def be over 135 if not more. Right now all i see is 11.30 slips and slower and traps under 130. These dynos are a joke!

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by Msizzle

You are 100% right, a gtr weighs a tick under 4000lb, it of course has superior traction but plenty of stock gtrs have 10second slips with about 480whp, you are telling me with 2-300whp more our can't can't easily do it!?!? A hellcat weighs more than our car and is rwd and several of them have gone 10's and I have seen 127traps stock. 2o15 Mustangs have gone 9's and they are rwd and heavy. So we need to stop talking about tractions issues and really look that these supposed "proven" numbers. Trap speeds don't lie, if we have a car that traps 118-124 stock and you add upwards of 250whp more then the cars should def be over 135 if not more. Right now all i see is 11.30 slips and slower and traps under 130. These dynos are a joke!

Umm... haven't you seen my traps 132-136mph? Still 11's though :-). Half mile was 168mph. Stock M5's were running 140mph same day same event.

[Msizzle]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Umm... haven't you seen my traps 132-136mph? Still 11's though :-)

not necessarily reffering to you, no doubt your car is a monster.But we have seen a ton of dyno's over 650whp, 5 or 6 over 700whp, and a few over 750whp and thats just on the forums. Cars over 130 i think is you and m6beast and thats it.

[allmotor_2000]

I don't believe any other dyno. To my knowledge I am the only one to trap > 130 mph w/o NOS. Dyno #'s are BS without track #'s to back it up! Will try again at Bakersfield Dec 12th - may trailer the car in case something breaks :-)

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

I don't believe any other dyno. To my knowledge I am the only one to trap > 130 mph w/o NOS. Dyno #'s are BS without track #'s to back it up! Will try again at Bakersfield Dec 12th - may trailer the car in case something breaks :-)

Yeah and personally I'm not trying to kill peoples vibes. I get the M brand driver is not typically like the GTR, mustang, vette, etc. driver who wants raw numbers and big power.. We here in this group of engine exhaust mods are literally [I should say were since I am a former owner hoping to see big things ] the minority of the ownership.

Most of these M4,M5 owners who care to mod at all want to see big dyno numbers so when they show up to cars on coffee or are on the golf course can say my M5 made 850,900 HP [crank of course]. Meanwhile they don't realize their raw confirmable data really isn't backing it up.

I think one of the main areas the car could benefit from on the track is smaller brake setup so it can run a lower profile tire.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Umm... haven't you seen my traps 132-136mph? Still 11's though :-). Half mile was 168mph. Stock M5's were running 140mph same day same event.

To be fair you haven't run 136 mph at the drag strip . Vbox terminal velocity and trap speed is not the same thing . As trap is the avg speed the last 60 ft which is always lower . I'm looking forward to your trap speed at the dragstrip with the current set up . Bc good traction or no that will be telling .FYI an M5 at ATCO with just BMS at 3.5 psi and exhaust and race gas, no meth , no NOS ran a 10.9@ 131 mph and had a highest trap of 133 mph with DR's .

[Drm5]

Well let see, I really don't wanna sound disappointed but I am disappointed.. hahaha. Car really feels strong when I do pulls on 3 and 4, and back off the gas quickly, but in the 1/2 I has a lot of problems.. No big tracking problems but when the car got to 3rd gear it feel like it MDM would kick in but the light never come on , on the dash. Then on 5th gear it would just die at about 155mph..and I would still have at least 250 meter or so to end of the 1/2 mile.. best..so most of my runs were 153 mph.
I did put a diff methanol .. hot shot by power mist and It does have additive that I was told made the JB4 go into safe mode and cut power..
I empty the tank and added M1 by VP and after a few more runs and some rest did get a 16mph but still you could feel the car just cut power in middle of the gear and pick it up and the end of the gear. So I thick clutch can't handle the torque of the car..
A few thing If I ran the car with DSM off completely the car died at the 155 mph
I mean It would just quit on me !!!. So the 160 were on MDM.
2 other M5 with JB4 on map 7 with 104 did 161mph...

and I did talked to my tuner and He did send the log of the Dyno to Terry last week and I think he told me that he share some info with George ..
I guess next step is better clutch..

[Drm5]

I forgot guys... just some info so we can be safe out there on this type of event
there were 2 bad accidents

1st a female driver got into her husband hellcat and didn't know were the 1/2 marker was and keep going till the end of the track and total the car.. she walked out of the car thank to the helmet....

2nd a vette with nitro when up in flames and event organizers did have firetruck on site and it was to late by the time the airport firetruck got there..the owner had extinguisher but I guess got to nervous and did use them.

Underground racing won with a 221mph pass of there lambo and local gtr did a 219mph pass and 2 supra did 210mph pass.. not bad..!!!!