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      02-03-2011, 09:26 AM   #1
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Cool F10 M5 Ceramic Brakes Option In the Works

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Not many details have yet been confirmed on the upcoming F10 M5, but in a recent interview with the head of M division, Dr. Kay Segler has confirmed that ceramic brakes for the F10 M5 is coming. When posed with the question whether future M cars will be available with a ceramic brakes option, he responded that it's being worked on, for the M5.

This would represent the first time that ceramic brakes are offered as an option on a production BMW. Ceramic brakes provide great braking power, well wear over time, produce less brake dust, and are very lightweight.

Ceramic brakes are options currently standard on the best performance cars (Carrera GT, 911 GT2, Nissan GT-R, Corvette ZR1, etc.), so it's safe to assume that BMW has nothing but the highest performance aspirations for the F10 M5.

Expect a first appearance of the M5 in concept form in April and in production form at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September.

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      02-03-2011, 01:49 PM   #2
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OH MY GOD, i really really really hope this comes to the next m3
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Love Ceramic Brake!!

Wish they would come as option to the 2012 M3 models!
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      02-03-2011, 02:12 PM   #7
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wait, i heard that ceramic brakes are very easy to break (hehe, couldnt help myself)

but seriously, i heard that its easy for a small rock to hit cermaic brakes and crack them. anyone else experience this?
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Love Ceramic Brake!!

Wish they would come as option to the 2012 M3 models!
You never know
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The corvette zr1 comes with blue foam bumpers to protect the ceramic brakes if you ever take the wheels off. They can be delicate and have strict break in periods as well. Example 0-60-0 50 times in a row as indicated in the owners manual. Carbon ceramic brakes are also an option on the panamera. A 10-12k option at that. It would be interesting for people to spend that amount of money on a factory option on an 70-80k car.
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that'll be a $6000 option
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(from Dec. 2009) regarding:
"M Division : The Road Ahead : New World Order The New BMW M5." (M Division : The Road Ahead : New World Order The New BMW M5.)

M Division : The Road Ahead : New World Order The New BMW M5.
M Division : The Road Ahead


New World Order - The New BMW M5.

Whilst it's true that the M Division has come in for quite a few comments regarding current product or lets not beat about the bush The BMW X5 M and BMW X6 M. Identified as the "next Chapter" in M. Derided by enthusiasts and journalists alike. Has the M Division lost it? Has the M Division lost it's focus? Does M stand for marketing now?
Does the M philosophy no longer remain pertinent?

Are some of the comments.


The Pinnacle of Efficient Dynamics.
With the creation of BMW Efficient Dynamics. Technology aimed at reducing fuel consumption without sacrificing driving pleasure and carbon dioxide emissions spreading throughout the BMW portfolio. One question remained unanswered how will the M Division benefit ? And how will the M division remain relevant in the long term?

BMW M Division will become the pinacle of Efficient Dynamics. Welcome to the Brave New World of Performance.


Lightweight construction.
BMW M cars will now seperate themselves from the core cars by utilising the same platform but for the relevant M model. The floorplan will be pressed in aluminium. As the core 5er begins to use lightweight materials such as aluminium on the door and bonnet skins, these will transfer over as will an optional Carbon Fibre reinforced roof - A first for an M5 , and a first for a BMW performance sedan.


BMW Active Aerodynamics
First showcased on the GINA Concept Car - A car that was way ahead of it's time and key component in the BMW Efficient Dynamics programme.
In principle to reduce drag and boost downforce and lower fuel consumption. Special Aerodynamic aids that will move automatically incorporated in the front of the car including the outeredge of the wheel arches , front bumpers and within the grille intake. Mini Turbines are incorporated in the grille which convert drag under braking into electricity.


KERS (Kinetic Energy recovery System)
The new M5 will spearhead a radical addition to further reduce consumption. Conceived well within when BMW were still commencing with their F1 Programme. With KERS developed for the F1 car , BMW also created a synergy for an application of such a system to a road car.
Successfully applied to the Road Car division the KERS developed by M division consists of an on-off-on again programme involving
Twin Parallell Supercapacitors between the driveshaft providing 10 sec power boost at the press of a button. The idea is to have stored up the energy and allow the driver to unleash the power on demand. An adaption of this idea will feature in the six cylinder Active Hybrid 5 Concept Car that will be shown in Geneva in March 2010.
Tests carried out within the confines of BMW's private proving grounds are ongoing as the KERS is relatively new tech. The development of the new car remains in status.


The Importance of Character
The V10 in the E60 M5 is truly a work of art. Although a V10 was considered and remains as a possible venture for an additional M model.
The new car inherits the V8 engine found within the BMW X5 and X6 M models. Although BMW stress that the engine will be unique to the M5 with Just under 580 PS.
The V8 although shared with the X5M and X6M is completely individual and unique to the M5. With BMW adapting the engine to suit the M5 and it’s character it’s not a complete transplant. Character in an M5 is essential as is sound. The engine has to synergize with the DKG Transmission and the KERS.
The V8 will in turn be faster and more powerful than the outgoing V10 and sound just as spectacular.
The V8 will also feature cylinder shutdown also to aid fuel consumption with overall figures expected to be between 25-30% better than the E60 M5.

Aswell as a unique engine , The M5 will inherit a Dual clutch transmission which will be unique to the M5, based upon the 7 speeder found within the current M3 , eight Gears will be available and will be equipped with a stop-start control. The DCT will also be operated with steering wheel mounted paddles. The M5 although not at first will also be available with optional Carbon Fibre brakes, currently being trialled.
Customisable driving options will also feature as will a new electronic stability control with torque vectoring and roll control.
Efficient Dynamics features will also be available from the touch of a switch.


Designed for Performance
The M5's secret has always been to remain understated and discreet on the outside , but within lies the beast.
Typical M5 and BMW M aerodynamic features adorn the car. With the new 5er central grille being much larger the central intake size has been diminished , although the brake outlets are larger. Wheel arches are swollen to add some mass on the F10's athletic muscle. A side air intake is placed underneath the character line which climaxes at the wheel arch.
The Side skirts are more sculptured alllowing for good aerodynamics.
At the rear the typical Quad exhausts remain with a sculpted diffuser and central intake. A small bootlid spoiler allows the car to remain understated.
and restrained.


What Comes After?
In addition to the standard luxury performance sedan BMW will offer a more hardcore model in the same vain as the BMW M5 CSL 25th anniversary car. Swapping Luxuries for Performance and being as hardcore as they come. Not available at first but coming on steam eighteen months later. BMW want to expand the M cars by having the core model and something more inclined for enthusiasts.


A Touring model is under consideration.
Just as BMW teased the E60. The F10 BMW M5 will bow as a Production concept at the 2011 Geneva Autoshow with the production model debuting in the early summer before the world premiere at the IAA Frankfurt in 2011. European sales begin at the same time.
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if the same motor that is found on X6M and X5M will be used on the new M5-of course with different software mapping and different timing and all that-that car will be a beast. Granted I haven't driven an E60 M5, the TTV8 is nothing to underestimate.
I have driven an X6M; for the size and weight of that SAV, that car didn't lack any power. Constant invisible energy pushing your chest back into the seat.
But I am looking forward in terms of power and braking on the new M5.
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This is great news, can't wait for more info and real pics!
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Sounds great as an option, but wait until you have to come up with some coins to replace them.
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Sounds great as an option, but wait until you have to come up with some coins to replace them.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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i wonder if BMW would cover them under their free maintenance program, doubt it
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that'll be a $6000 option
$8840 on a turbo panamera. But then you have to upgrade wheels from 19 to 20s bringing the total to $10,400.
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Corvette ZL1?

Anyone else notice that?
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Nice to hear. But like others have said , will be rather pricey option.
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awesome, Thanks Scott for posting the info very good read in your post
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