Gintani ECU and DCT "tune"

[JPMD]

Hi guys. What exactly what is this and is it compatible with BMS?
thanks.

[shahano]

Never heard of it.

[AntoM3]

Contacted them a couple weeks ago in regards to it actually.

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by JPMD

Hi guys. What exactly what is this and is it compatible with BMS?
thanks.

I probably wouldn't run 2 different types of "tunes" regardless if 1 is piggy back style and other is flash tune.
I would deff wait for someone to get it done or ask to see results of their test vehicle first.

[JPMD]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

I probably wouldn't run 2 different types of "tunes" regardless if 1 is piggy back style and other is flash tune.
I would deff wait for someone to get it done or ask to see results of their test vehicle first.

Thanks. I've seen on one of the Bimmerpost's members list of mods that he was running both. Ill try to figure out who the member is and see if we can get him to chime in.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

I probably wouldn't run 2 different types of "tunes" regardless if 1 is piggy back style and other is flash tune.
I would deff wait for someone to get it done or ask to see results of their test vehicle first.

Thats what the 335i boys do for max gains, Have a JB4 stacked on cobb.

[M5TXGuy]

I have both, BMS and the Gintani "tunes". I guess I should buy a vbox so that I can get some feedback for the board. I was originally told about Gintani by Alex@Alpine. Alex did some remote coding for me and said I should talk to the Ginanti guys about their "tunes". I only have about 1,000 miles with their catless downpipes and "tunes", still no CEL. Gintani told me there was no issue running BMS and their "tunes".

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by M5TXGuy

I have both, BMS and the Gintani "tunes". I guess I should buy a vbox so that I can get some feedback for the board. I was originally told about Gintani by Alex@Alpine. Alex did some remote coding for me and said I should talk to the Ginanti guys about their "tunes". I only have about 1,000 miles with their catless downpipes and "tunes", still no CEL. Gintani told me there was no issue running BMS and their "tunes".

You have BMS and Gintani engine software on what type of engine ?

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Thats what the 335i boys do for max gains, Have a JB4 stacked on cobb.

Guess I just don't understand how that can be beneficial.
If BMS and Cobb both have increased map parameters, wouldn't it be conflicting with each other ? Doesn't really make sense how it could work to benefit without causing some type of issue.
It would be cool if someone from BMS would chime in on this subject matter.
If it is true then I'll be running that on my S63T that has Dinan D-tronics and add back the BMS I removed.
I emailed BMS and will post up their reply.

[JPMD]

Originally Posted by M5TXGuy

I have both, BMS and the Gintani "tunes". I guess I should buy a vbox so that I can get some feedback for the board. I was originally told about Gintani by Alex@Alpine. Alex did some remote coding for me and said I should talk to the Ginanti guys about their "tunes". I only have about 1,000 miles with their catless downpipes and "tunes", still no CEL. Gintani told me there was no issue running BMS and their "tunes".

Thanks for sharing. What brand downpipes (catless) do you have?

[6underpressure]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

Guess I just don't understand how that can be beneficial.
If BMS and Cobb both have increased map parameters, wouldn't it be conflicting with each other ? Doesn't really make sense how it could work to benefit without causing some type of issue.
It would be cool if someone from BMS would chime in on this subject matter.
If it is true then I'll be running that on my S63T that has Dinan D-tronics and add back the BMS I removed.
I emailed BMS and will post up their reply.

Not sure if I'm right ... But I think it's for the meth irrigation the jb4 offers

[M5TXGuy]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

You have BMS and Gintani engine software on what type of engine ?

I have a 2013 M5

[M5TXGuy]

Originally Posted by JPMD

Thanks for sharing. What brand downpipes (catless) do you have?

They are Gintani downpipes.

[PetrolFumes]

Just talked to Alex at Gintani...sounds like they are very close to fully cracking the DME. I a, strongly considering their tune that they currently have. Anyone else have it...experience so far?

[M5TXGuy]

Originally Posted by MPowerrF10

Just talked to Alex at Gintani...sounds like they are very close to fully cracking the DME. I a, strongly considering their tune that they currently have. Anyone else have it...experience so far?

I may be the only one with it on this board, so far. I don't have vbox or dyno results, except for butt dyno. I had BMS before I got the Gintani downpipes and "tunes". I definitely noticed the hp/speed gains when I added BMS. I then definitely noticed the hp/speed gains when I added Gintani downpipes and "tunes". I don't know, however, if the Gintani gains all came from their downpipes or the "tunes" or a combination of both. I wasn't looking for an additional tune when I got the Gintani "tunes". I only got the Gintani "tunes" because I was told about not receiving a CEL from the catless downpipes if I got the "tunes". So far, no CEL. I haven't had a chance to verify if the speed limiter removal is in fact working. No good roads in Dallas/Fort Worth, I need to get out of town soon. But probably should get vbox first so that I can share the results with everyone.

[ASAP]

For N54s, the jb4 controls all aspects of the tune... the cobb is simply a reflash of the fueling tables to change scalars. The latter has to be done via flash in order to run higher concentrations of e85.

[JPMD]

Originally Posted by M5TXGuy

I may be the only one with it on this board, so far. I don't have vbox or dyno results, except for butt dyno. I had BMS before I got the Gintani downpipes and "tunes". I definitely noticed the hp/speed gains when I added BMS. I then definitely noticed the hp/speed gains when I added Gintani downpipes and "tunes". I don't know, however, if the Gintani gains all came from their downpipes or the "tunes" or a combination of both. I wasn't looking for an additional tune when I got the Gintani "tunes". I only got the Gintani "tunes" because I was told about not receiving a CEL from the catless downpipes if I got the "tunes". So far, no CEL. I haven't had a chance to verify if the speed limiter removal is in fact working. No good roads in Dallas/Fort Worth, I need to get out of town soon. But probably should get vbox first so that I can share the results with everyone.

is the "tuning" done remotely ?
Can a scan tool pick up CELs from the downpipes that the tune is masking?

[M5TXGuy]

Originally Posted by JPMD

is the "tuning" done remotely ?
Can a scan tool pick up CELs from the downpipes that the tune is masking?

It was completed remotely which took about an hour.

I have no idea about the second question.

[PetrolFumes]

Originally Posted by M5TXGuy

I may be the only one with it on this board, so far. I don't have vbox or dyno results, except for butt dyno. I had BMS before I got the Gintani downpipes and "tunes". I definitely noticed the hp/speed gains when I added BMS. I then definitely noticed the hp/speed gains when I added Gintani downpipes and "tunes". I don't know, however, if the Gintani gains all came from their downpipes or the "tunes" or a combination of both. I wasn't looking for an additional tune when I got the Gintani "tunes". I only got the Gintani "tunes" because I was told about not receiving a CEL from the catless downpipes if I got the "tunes". So far, no CEL. I haven't had a chance to verify if the speed limiter removal is in fact working. No good roads in Dallas/Fort Worth, I need to get out of town soon. But probably should get vbox first so that I can share the results with everyone.

So with Gintani tune and DPs you are getting more power than with the BMS alone? From what you can feel?

[M5TXGuy]

Originally Posted by MPowerrF10

So with Gintani tune and DPs you are getting more power than with the BMS alone? From what you can feel?

Yes, but everyone should feel an increase in power when adding catless downpipes, regardless of whether BMS is already installed.

[PetrolFumes]

Originally Posted by M5TXGuy

Yes, but everyone should feel an increase in power when adding catless downpipes, regardless of whether BMS is already installed.

And so far 1k miles with no CEL?

[M5TXGuy]

Originally Posted by MPowerrF10

And so far 1k miles with no CEL?

Correct. I'll keep updating every 500 miles or so, or until I get a CEL, which is probably likely. That's just me being a cynic and assuming I wasted my money on the "tunes".