BMW Tell Uk Dealers

[JOHNBMWM5]

That the new M3/4 is the most powerful M Car they have made to date , not good news for use M5 owners, and confirms ( if true ) the M3/4 is quicker.

[bobblehead]

'Powerful', in terms of output or 0-60mph or 1/4 mile time & speed.

So, when the next gen of X5M and X6M comes out next year, it is supposed to have a slightly higher output than then current M5/M6 engine. Will BMW calls it the most 'powerful' M vehicle at that time ?

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by bobblehead

'Powerful', in terms of output or 0-60mph or 1/4 mile time & speed.

So, when the next gen of X5M and X6M comes out next year, it is supposed to have a slightly higher output than then current M5/M6 engine. Will BMW calls it the most 'powerful' M vehicle at that time ?

Probably power to weight and 0-60 times

[Stash21]

Bmw should get their terminology straight. Most powerful alone would mean absolute output.

[Actor]

I read in a magazine that BMW stated that the M3/M4 is the fastest car that they make. However, take into consideration that the M3?4 and the M5 are out of sync. The statement will probably be rolled out for the next generation M5.

[Neil McRae]

lol John, M3 and M5 totally different cars.

Neil.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Stash21

Bmw should get their terminology straight. Most powerful alone would mean absolute output.

As we haven't actually seen BMW's info on this matter, I'm not so sure that we have a true representation of the wording BMW have used here..

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

That the new M3/4 is the most powerful M Car they have made to date , not good news for use M5 owners, and confirms ( if true ) the M3/4 is quicker.

Do we have a source for this and actual wording of said info?

[Actor]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Do we have a source for this and actual wording of said info?

"………..because these new cars - with a quoted 0-62mph time of 4.1s (with the DCT ‘box) - are the quickest production cars BMW currently makes. Even faster than the M5 and M6. Not that BMW cares about such things. "We're not concerned [with being quicker than its 'big brothers'], we just wanted to make the quickest M3 and M4 possible."
Quotation from an article in Topgear about the new M3/4 read today in an interview with Matt Collins, production manager of BMW's small to medium cars. So I guess it is official: the M3/4 is faster!

Above is from one of my previous posts on another thread.

[Stash21]

Originally Posted by Boss330

As we haven't actually seen BMW's info on this matter, I'm not so sure that we have a true representation of the wording BMW have used here..

Fair point.

[RealStig]

The new cars do 0-60 in 3.9s vs 4.2s M5. That may seem small, but it's actually a big difference. Anything sub 4 is a big deal in my book.

[04S]

Guys let's keep a little perspective here. The M5 is a fast car. I am here in the uk driving a merc 180 a class diesel. A frozen gray m5 comp package drove past me today and I longed for my car. The m5 is a seriously good car. And the m3/4 will be too. Not a problem for me at all. The next m5 will step past the new m3/4, but seriously, how fast do you want your car to be ?

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Actor

"………..because these new cars - with a quoted 0-62mph time of 4.1s (with the DCT ‘box) - are the quickest production cars BMW currently makes. Even faster than the M5 and M6. Not that BMW cares about such things. "We're not concerned [with being quicker than its 'big brothers'], we just wanted to make the quickest M3 and M4 possible."
Quotation from an article in Topgear about the new M3/4 read today in an interview with Matt Collins, production manager of BMW's small to medium cars. So I guess it is official: the M3/4 is faster!

Above is from one of my previous posts on another thread.

We all know that the M4 is quicker than a M5 from 0-100km/h and do exactly similar 0-1000m times (21,9s).

However the claim here was that BMW had said that the F8x was the most powerfull M yet.

One thing is being quicker/faster, another thing is being the most powerfull model... Which is why I requested a source on how the actual wording was from BMW

[Actor]

Originally Posted by Boss330

We all know that the M4 is quicker than a M5 from 0-100km/h and do exactly similar 0-1000m times (21,9s).

However the claim here was that BMW had said that the F8x was the most powerfull M yet.

One thing is being quicker/faster, another thing is being the most powerfull model... Which is why I requested a source on how the actual wording was from BMW

Apologies; I posted faster! The M5 is still more powerful. However, sometimes I wonder if it really matters as most people would not get anywhere close to the abilities of these cars.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Actor

Apologies; I posted faster! The M5 is still more powerful. However, sometimes I wonder if it really matters as most people would not get anywhere close to the abilities of these cars.

No need to apologize You haven't done anything wrong

Just wanted to point out what the original claim was about

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Aussie F10M

Guys let's keep a little perspective here. The M5 is a fast car. I am here in the uk driving a merc 180 a class diesel. A frozen gray m5 comp package drove past me today and I longed for my car. The m5 is a seriously good car. And the m3/4 will be too. Not a problem for me at all. The next m5 will step past the new m3/4, but seriously, how fast do you want your car to be ?

+1; it's not as though you get to use an M5 to it's full potential driving on UK roads and even if F8x M3/4 were a little slower than the M5, driver's of the same ability would still be likely to driver 'faster' than an M5 - if outright performance was all that mattered, then we may as well just buy GTRs, 991 TTSs, etc. and even then, there's still the potential to meet a bigger fish...

An F30 335d xDrive has a claimed 0-62 of 4.8s - I wouldn't be surprised if most people will be able to out perform an F10 M5 in one of those (at least on UK-type roads at normal-ish speeds).

[Actor]

Originally Posted by Boss330

No need to apologize

….just being British!

[Actor]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

+1; it's not as though you get to use M5 to it's full potential driving on UK roads and even if F80 M3/4 were a little slower than the M5, driver's of the same ability would still be likely to driver 'faster' than an M5 - if outright performance was all that mattered, then we may as well just buy GTRs, 991 TTSs, etc. and even then, there's still the potential to meet a bigger fish...

An F30 335d xDrive has a claimed 0-62 of 4.8s - I would be surprised if most people will be able to out perform an F10 M5 in one of those (at least on UK-type roads at normal-ish speeds).

With all the unmarked cop cars in town, no chance.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Neil McRae

lol John, M3 and M5 totally different cars.

Neil.

Do you have an M3/4 on order? If so, when is it due (looking forwards to the reviews, especially from UK drivers)?

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Actor

With all the unmarked cop cars in town, no chance.

You don't have to be breaking the speed limit to drive fast

And I don't mean dangerously either, in case anyone asks...

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Actor

….just being British!

That's brilliant Being British is a good thing

[Actor]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

You don't have to be breaking the speed limit to drive fast

And I don't mean dangerously either, in case anyone asks...

Yup!