Dyno: M5 OpenFlash Tune VS. M6 GC Dinan & M5 ESS

Somy6 · 11-12-2018, 03:37 PM

We had a Dyno day Friday at Black Market Racing here in Arizona.

We ran all 3 cars back to back on the same dyno, same weather, same everything within minutes from one another!

First off we had a 2015 M6 Grand Coupe with Dinan intake, Dinan Tune, Dinan Exhaust, Catless Downpipes

The car made 553 WHP and 54x Tq

Next we had a 2014 Comp package M5 with ESS Tune, Competition exhaust, Catless Downpipes, K&N Filter, Charcoal Delete and Methanol Injection

The car made 638 WHP and 64x Tq

My car is a 2014 Stock M5 with only OpenFlash

I'm running 91 Octane + Lucas Oil Octane booster on V1.2 Tune - No burbles

I honestly thought something was off but I saw run 2 & 3 making the same numbers so... Guess my car is making that much power

This was 3rd run which actually made more power than the first two.

Graph below

Pikey Motorsports · 11-12-2018, 04:39 PM

Nice I would like to see some 60-130 and 100-200 times

OpenFlash · 11-12-2018, 06:10 PM

Nice to see the newest version of our Stg1 tune put down some big and consistent numbers. There's a lot more power potential in these engines than most tuners are aware of. So there is very little need to spend $$ on bolt-on hardware which comes with its own set of compromises (noise, emissions, complexity, installation labor, etc,) A properly calibrated ECU tune goes a long way. And no, unlike most other tuners, we do NOT change the sensitivity of the knock control system. If you get everything right in terms of fuel, spark, VVT, etc. the ECU is happy with letting the engine make loads of power. Plain and simple.

Cheers
shiv

azndrunk74 · 11-12-2018, 07:40 PM

It looks very different from the flat torque tune with approx 600wtq. Has v1.2 been released and any reason for pushing torque much higher?

OpenFlash · 11-12-2018, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by azndrunk74

It looks very different from the flat torque tune with approx 600wtq. Has v1.2 been released and any reason for pushing torque much higher?

This is the full torque version of the newest version stage 1 tune. Torque is actually still quite flat from 2500 to 4500rpm. The dyno operator started the pull at a late 3000rpm for some reason. Also keep in mind that the hp and torque scaling is very different than the dyno graphs we post so the curves will look subjectively very different. If you make the Y axis show from 0 to 700 instead of 350 to 700, the curves will flatten out quite a bit. The primary goal with this tune is to provide lots of useable torque quite still making peak hp above 6000rpm which makes the car still feel nice and revvy. The flat torque version of this tune makes makes the same peak hp but is about 75lbft down on tq and is flat from 2500 to 5500rpm.

V1.2 is essentially the same as v1.1 but we changed some temp compensations table values. Will release it to everyone over the next week or so.

OneExtra · 11-13-2018, 04:18 AM

Not sure how long the stock clutches will last at 681 ft lbs

Somy6 · 11-13-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OneExtra

Not sure how long the stock clutches will last at 681 ft lbs

Good question but I almost always drive like a Grandma. I just like having that much power

Not to mention my car slides all over the place so its probably roasting more tires than a clutch, I think..

ByronUT_M6 · 11-13-2018, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Somy6

We had a Dyno day Friday at Black Market Racing here in Arizona.

We ran all 3 cars back to back on the same dyno, same weather, same everything within minutes from one another!

First off we had a 2015 M6 Grand Coupe with Dinan intake, Dinan Tune, Dinan Exhaust, Catless Downpipes

The car made 553 WHP and 54x Tq

Next we had a 2014 Comp package M5 with ESS Tune, Competition exhaust, Catless Downpipes, K&N Filter, Charcoal Delete and Methanol Injection

The car made 638 WHP and 64x Tq

My car is a 2014 Stock M5 with only OpenFlash

I'm running 91 Octane + Lucas Oil Octane booster on V1.2 Tune - No burbles

I honestly thought something was off but I saw run 2 & 3 making the same numbers so... Guess my car is making that much power

This was 3rd run which actually made more power than the first two.

Graph below

Great results! I can't wait to get my openflash tablet and tune installed.

Were you running the 91 or 93 oct. v1.2 stg1 map?

OpenFlash · 11-13-2018, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ByronUT_M6

Great results! I can't wait to get my openflash tablet and tune installed.

Were you running the 91 or 93 oct. v1.2 stg1 map?

He was running the 93oct stg1 tune.

YanoM5 · 11-13-2018, 11:44 PM

Would love to see an Openflash Tune M5 WITHOUT DP, since they don’t recommmend the smell, expense, breaking the law aspect of it VS a Bootmod3 M5 WITH DP and stage 2. Same octane gas!

Who else would love to see this!?

kong24680 · 11-14-2018, 12:14 AM

I'm currently FBO running the v1.1 stage 1 tune with octane booster. Will update once I update to 1.2

YanoM5 · 11-14-2018, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kong24680

I'm currently FBO running the v1.1 stage 1 tune with octane booster. Will update once I update to 1.2

Do you run the octane booster to run a 93 octane map or are you running a 91 octane map?

Dumpspec · 11-14-2018, 09:12 AM

how much boost? really impressive numbers on a stock car with only a tune.

kong24680 · 11-14-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dumpspec

how much boost? really impressive numbers on a stock car with only a tune.

Let's take a trip to Mexico and compare bm3 vs OFT

I'll run a 91 octane map with no octane booster!

Dumpspec · 11-14-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kong24680

Let's take a trip to Mexico and compare bm3 vs OFT

I'll run a 91 octane map with no octane booster!

LOL im down!! if he's making 650 bone stock i can't imagine how much you're making with full bolt ons. time to hit the dyno!

Washabi · 11-14-2018, 12:50 PM

holy hell

bleunetizen · 11-14-2018, 02:48 PM

Interested to see the boost curve too

If it does not create much knocks with higher boost + conservative timing then usually all is well, also curious about stock clutch limit though. I think I read somewhere about increasing clutch clamping force by coding or something, can anyone comment on this?

YanoM5 · 11-14-2018, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dumpspec

LOL im down!! if he's making 650 bone stock i can't imagine how much you're making with full bolt ons. time to hit the dyno!

OpenFlash · 11-14-2018, 11:13 PM

@Somy6 would it be possible for the other two dyno day participants with tuned M5s to post up their results?

mike@x-ph.com · 11-16-2018, 07:34 PM

Nice

747flyboy · 11-17-2018, 05:13 PM

Open Flash! May I have a link to your latest and greatest tune. I have 2016 M5 CP

CarduM3 · 11-17-2018, 05:19 PM

In what gear were these dyno runs done? Thanks.

11-12-2018, 03:37 PM	#1
Somy6 Second Lieutenant 65 Rep 229 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW Monte Carlo Blue M5 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arizona iTrader: (1)	Dyno: M5 OpenFlash Tune VS. M6 GC Dinan & M5 ESS We had a Dyno day Friday at Black Market Racing here in Arizona. We ran all 3 cars back to back on the same dyno, same weather, same everything within minutes from one another! First off we had a 2015 M6 Grand Coupe with Dinan intake, Dinan Tune, Dinan Exhaust, Catless Downpipes The car made 553 WHP and 54x Tq Next we had a 2014 Comp package M5 with ESS Tune, Competition exhaust, Catless Downpipes, K&N Filter, Charcoal Delete and Methanol Injection The car made 638 WHP and 64x Tq My car is a 2014 Stock M5 with only OpenFlash I'm running 91 Octane + Lucas Oil Octane booster on V1.2 Tune - No burbles I honestly thought something was off but I saw run 2 & 3 making the same numbers so... Guess my car is making that much power This was 3rd run which actually made more power than the first two. Graph below Attached Images Last edited by Somy6; 11-13-2018 at 01:11 PM..
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Pikey Motorsports Lieutenant 139 Rep 420 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Bristol iTrader: (0)	Nice I would like to see some 60-130 and 100-200 times
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11-12-2018, 06:10 PM	#3
OpenFlash 1737 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	Nice to see the newest version of our Stg1 tune put down some big and consistent numbers. There's a lot more power potential in these engines than most tuners are aware of. So there is very little need to spend $$ on bolt-on hardware which comes with its own set of compromises (noise, emissions, complexity, installation labor, etc,) A properly calibrated ECU tune goes a long way. And no, unlike most other tuners, we do NOT change the sensitivity of the knock control system. If you get everything right in terms of fuel, spark, VVT, etc. the ECU is happy with letting the engine make loads of power. Plain and simple. Cheers shiv
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azndrunk74 Major 612 Rep 1,326 Posts Drives: Frozen Black F10 M5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (13)	It looks very different from the flat torque tune with approx 600wtq. Has v1.2 been released and any reason for pushing torque much higher?
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11-13-2018, 04:18 AM	#6
OneExtra Lieutenant Colonel 811 Rep 1,847 Posts Drives: None Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Not sure how long the stock clutches will last at 681 ft lbs
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YanoM5 Captain 507 Rep 673 Posts Drives: 2018 Individual Nardo M5 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: WA iTrader: (1)	Would love to see an Openflash Tune M5 WITHOUT DP, since they don’t recommmend the smell, expense, breaking the law aspect of it VS a Bootmod3 M5 WITH DP and stage 2. Same octane gas! Who else would love to see this!?
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11-14-2018, 12:14 AM	#11
kong24680 Captain 252 Rep 998 Posts Drives: Silverstone Metallic F06 M6 Gr Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (5)	I'm currently FBO running the v1.1 stage 1 tune with octane booster. Will update once I update to 1.2
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11-14-2018, 09:12 AM	#13
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bleunetizen Private 12 Rep 60 Posts Drives: F13 M6 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New Zealand iTrader: (0)	Interested to see the boost curve too If it does not create much knocks with higher boost + conservative timing then usually all is well, also curious about stock clutch limit though. I think I read somewhere about increasing clutch clamping force by coding or something, can anyone comment on this?
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