Dinan -New Products

[greentrbo95gst]

Originally Posted by DrKevM5

Just noticed the control arm application is for 3/13 and earlier builds.

BMW made some minor suspension changes to 4/13 builds.

[dba1t]

I presume this is the vehicle, although Steve states 670 HP in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/v/D4VkZQ7kb_U

[dan99]

[///SAL]

Dinan was good for me i know their expense but to me that warranty was worth it. I had stage 4 on my x5 and i was amaze how that car changed with those goodies. Keep it coming dinan!!

[PatrickC23]

How much is this Dinan package?

[soooma]

I know what Steve does he adds pretty much 30-50 whp to the already 620-630 car and he will claim the whole difference !!

I had 550i and Stage 2 which 501/580 torque but after driving my M5 hard enough I can tell you difference is a lot more than 60 whp from M5 and 550i Dinan stage 2 doesn't by any means have 80 pft more than M5!!

Dinan is done with me,
I noticed power difference after Dinan yes!
But to claim all the horse power because of BMW under rating their cars is just not working for me any more,

And trust me Dinan is not under rating his tunes -!!

So just be aware you are getting 30-40 whp extra if you get that and probably Same for Tque increase or 50 max...

S o with those bigger turbos Dinan wasn't able to go above 550i but 30-50 fpt that's it!!

And again 550i didn't have 580 fpt which is way more than M5 and I drove them both long enough!!

And guess what the guy who purchased my 550i 2012 F10 Dinan Stage 2 and test drove it for about 30 minutes then I offered him to drive my M5 and asked him to push it as hard and all I heard from him was "Damn this car is fast" and he didn't say anything like this about the Dinan stage 2 550i which was still a very fast car but not even close ... And don't tell me I said before they were close because apparently I was still scratching the surface of knowing the boundaries and limits of M5 (Getting to know and TAME the beast takes a while)!! Way more powerful...My goodness this DCT when using shift knob or paddle sifters to shift is Lightning fast!! WOW !! Like I heard before this is "The best PDK Porsche never made"-

Paid 3300$ for stage 2 Dinan for 550i and didn't want to waste more money so got the real thing because again it is not about power but rather about power delivery!! How, and when and believe it or not where in the power band!! Responsiveness too is an M thing.

But still kudos to Dinan if he was one of elite tuners who were able to crack the M5 ECU to tune it at least a clean reliable tune!!

But anything short of 700 horse power is probably not worth thousands especially with RWD still acting as the M5's Achilles' Tendon and I personally doubt that he will be able to get better than M5 Competition Package M treatment of the M differential. .. Highly doubt it... So actually to me car will be more powerful but not sure more fun to drive or push ... may be more power from a rolling start but try it from a dig and it is not Dinan's mistake that it is RWD M5 I guess but his efforts will be less fruitful I believe!!

Name RWD sub 3 seconds 700'ish Horse Power because I really don't know of any, but might be out of ignorance - I really wanna know (Sedaaaaaan)

IMHO
My 2 cents

[mwlmd]

Nice marketing. Sounds like quality. The only DINAN part I have experience with was an axle back exhaust on my E90 M3 and it sounded fantastic with zero drone.

[stealth.pilot]

I'm a fan. I had the Dinan tune on my 550i and thought it was superb. I also like that they stand behind their product.

I'm getting the Dinan sways next week. Liking forward to that.

[dkreidel]

I have the Dinan tune on my X5M, and it most definitely is quicker than stock. Don't know about faster yet; the tune on the X5M raises the limiter about 15 MPH but doesn't eliminate it as the truck is likely unstable > 170 MPH. I'm still running snow rubber

I had Dinan stuff on my 550 and it was quality equipment.

[Pazzo009]

I had a bad experience with Dinan after a software update came out from bmw and didn't mesh with the dinan software in the 335. The car did not run well and it was cutting out at high rpm. They did not help out like they should have and never fixed the issue. They started playing the blame game on bmw. They lost me as a customer

[M-bitious]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Looks like we may never see 800+hp on the F10 M5, or the G30 M5 will be out before any real hacking of the encryption is successful. I heard it was like 1056bit encryption, which is crazy.

You will, mine is a stage 3, PP-Performance with catless downpipes (no cell), Gruppe M intake, Manhart back boxes, running 791bhp at the crank. Next week I am changing the exhaust to cat back IPE-f1 with remote valve control. I think it will then produce over 800bhp. Speed limiter is removed.

[N.S.A]

I gain so much more respect to Dinan to its product and quality and understanding of the pricess

[PatrickC23]

I think Alpha Alpine is referring to the Dinan coilover setup, which Dinan references in the video. He mentions it allows EDC to still work. That would interest me, especially since it's warrantied and the dealership I bought from is Dinan certified.

[soooma]

Installed Shockware and 3 months later they call me and say come back because we believe you don't have it on car something went wrong after Dealer Tried initially to say come for an update!! When they knee I never had it in the first place!! and after paying 800$!!

Shame!!

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by soooma

Installed Shockware and 3 months later they call me and say come back because we believe you don't have it on car something went wrong after Dealer Tried initially to say come for an update!! When they knee I never had it in the first place!! and after paying 800$!!

Shame!!

Yes this is the issue with tuning. My rule - if you can't feel the difference immediately, ask for your money back.

Personally I see absolutely no reason to tune the M5 whatsoever. Given traction and aero limitations, the M5 is in the realm of performance where wanting more is just silly IMO.

[soooma]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Yes this is the issue with tuning. My rule - if you can't feel the difference immediately, ask for your money back.

Personally I see absolutely no reason to tune the M5 whatsoever. Given traction and aero limitations, the M5 is in the realm of performance where wanting more is just silly IMO.

Thank you
What you said x 2 + Louder exhauste -

[RPiM5]

I'll just come right out and say it, since this is an open forum and we value everyone's opinion(mostly), but some Dinan products are really very good, while others are complete shit. They've made a lot of stuff for a lot of different BMW's over the years so there's too many parts to list, but for example, their exhausts are usually of medium quality, with pretty modest power gains and modest sound gains, but overly expensive. Their S85 5.7L V10 Stroker was a Masterpiece, and their new Sway Bars for the F10 M5 look to be very awesome, while their 3.91 differential for the E60 M5 was a complete piece of garbage, I've known so many people who had theirs break on them.

When averaged out, I think overall they make good stuff, but their products are overpriced. The warranty they claim that comes with their products is really only for the Dinan part itself. Usually all tuners do this though. If your engine breaks with a Dinan tune, I don't think Dinan is going to cover the whole cost of a brand new engine.

Personally, I've never bought a single Dinan product. Not because I don't like them, but mostly because they are overpriced and they don't give me what I'm looking for most of the time. But for some reason I have always been drawn to their wheels.

I may purchase some Dinan products in the future, but time will tell with what they come out with.

Also Sooma, I could barely understand what you are saying. Lol!

[soooma]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I'll just come right out and say it, since this is an open forum and we value everyone's opinion(mostly), but some Dinan products are really very good, while others are complete shit. They've made a lot of stuff for a lot of different BMW's over the years so there's too many parts to list, but for example, their exhausts are usually of medium quality, with pretty modest power gains and modest sound gains, but overly expensive. Their S85 5.7L V10 Stroker was a Masterpiece, and their new Sway Bars for the F10 M5 look to be very awesome, while their 3.91 differential for the E60 M5 was a complete piece of garbage, I've known so many people who had theirs break on them.

When averaged out, I think overall they make good stuff, but their products are overpriced. The warranty they claim that comes with their products is really only for the Dinan part itself. Usually all tuners do this though. If your engine breaks with a Dinan tune, I don't think Dinan is going to cover the whole cost of a brand new engine.

Personally, I've never bought a single Dinan product. Not because I don't like them, but mostly because they are overpriced and they don't give me what I'm looking for most of the time. But for some reason I have always been drawn to their wheels.

I may purchase some Dinan products in the future, but time will tell with what they come out with.

Also Sooma, I could barely understand what you are saying. Lol!

Well said,
I wanted to say this but I am not as well spoken like you I guess and use my phone for replies and auto correct is not exactly a friend of mine -

[Spinny02]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Yes this is the issue with tuning. My rule - if you can't feel the difference immediately, ask for your money back.

Personally I see absolutely no reason to tune the M5 whatsoever. Given traction and aero limitations, the M5 is in the realm of performance where wanting more is just silly IMO.

Hehe it's an addiction. Once you get used to the speed it hard to drive anything else with out wanting to add more.

You are correct then at does not need more power but my pea brain disagrees with my logical reasoning.

[Spinny02]

Originally Posted by M-bitious

You will, mine is a stage 3, PP-Performance with catless downpipes (no cell), Gruppe M intake, Manhart back boxes, running 791bhp at the crank. Next week I am changing the exhaust to cat back IPE-f1 with remote valve control. I think it will then produce over 800bhp. Speed limiter is removed.

What speeds have you been able to get up too ? Any vids? That's just awesome!

[PatrickC23]

I'm with Stealth on this, I do a lot of cosmetic mods, but the HP and torque that come stock are plenty for me. Sound is a different issue tho, I agree with Sooma that I'd like it louder.

[soooma]

Originally Posted by M-bitious

You will, mine is a stage 3, PP-Performance with catless downpipes (no cell), Gruppe M intake, Manhart back boxes, running 791bhp at the crank. Next week I am changing the exhaust to cat back IPE-f1 with remote valve control. I think it will then produce over 800bhp. Speed limiter is removed.

You live up to your name it seems -
Do you mind me asking
- 0-60mph changes from the 3.6-3.7 sec that we have been consistently seeing with stock F10 M5?
- Quarter mile change from 12.6-12.8 sec that have been consistently reported by many forum memebrs?

I am trying to be more objective because Dinan made me question my own BUTT , LOL I mean my BUTT Dyno -
Hahahahah