03-31-2012, 02:59 PM | #1 |
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Featured on BIMMERPOST.com This car has to much power IMO. I can almost never win a trafficlight run because of the DSG turning in immediately. After a couple of meters the car takes of like Ã* fighter jet and leaves everything behind. And also the gap between flooring the gas and respons is getting on my nerves. Is that what they call turbo lag?? And the last thing is the steering wheel. I dont like it. Its not sporty and the middle is too big. I like the M6 steering wheel. No big deals but still annoying. Anybody with the same feeling?? |
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Dry weather, warm asphalt, warm tires, MDM help. Also try to stop about 1 meter from the traffic light and start moving BEFORE it goes green. Quote:
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Whom did you try racing and what was the outcome? |
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03-31-2012, 03:29 PM | #3 |
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How comes you don't win traffic light race if after 2m, the car takes off like a jet?
I agree that there is some slight lag, but I think you're mistaking lag with DSC kicking in so power doesn't transfer to the road immediately. Usually if the road is dry and you don't slam your foot down but press more gradually, the power usually goes down very violently and quickly!! Don't mean to patronise or anything!! |
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03-31-2012, 03:37 PM | #4 |
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Dont place any emphasis on performance with those summer tires when its cold.
Hold off till May and let us know then. Interesting what you say about lag, try to launch with a little foot on gas and brake and spool the engine a bit. |
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03-31-2012, 03:54 PM | #5 |
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I want to mention something that I found to be dangerously bad, I had a spirited driving experience couple of days ago and after 5 minutes my brakes became VERY soft, felt like I lost 80% of my braking power and it was only working when pushed all the way to the bottom. Overheat?
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It was only once for me too, but it's very dangerous. I haven't had it on my M6 E63 after much more stressful driving. I don't remember manual mentioning or warning anything about this.
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As always heat is the enemy. I wonder if the brakes are all show. I know the member from Singapore mentioned he was not happy with the braking. Gonna be interesting once the car hits the US. |
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03-31-2012, 07:55 PM | #9 | |
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My biggest complaint about this car is still the brakes. Initial brake bite is seriously lacking and completely different from all BMWs i have driven. A heavy braking force is required. I also do not like the gas pedal. There is too much travel just to do a "pedal to the metal." The brake pedal also has some issue. The stalk of the pedal seems too short and the tip of my foot often gets caught by the plastic housing on top of the pedal. It's disconcerting to say the least. I have to consciously place the heel of my foot correctly to prevent that. That's not something i have to do in the M3, which i feel is more ergonomic. I will go take some pics later in case some of u guys are wondering what i am talking about.
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03-31-2012, 08:21 PM | #10 |
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Clar, you mean heels like these?!
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I have heard about this happening from the dealer and they replaced the brake pump for one of the cars. You might wanna get it checked at the dealership.
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See my image below. The tip of the feet can touch the top plastic housing of the brake pedal.
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I don't have that problem, but my seat is pushed back quite a bit though and I rest my right foot at the bottom tip of the pedal, not on top. By the way this is not be the most aesthetically pleasing comment, but driving in socks or bare feet is by far the best and most accurate way of driving and feeling the car for me.
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80% loss of braking and excessive pedal travel indicates a very serious problem. |
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+1 for getting brakes checked, but I'm curious what 'spirited driving' looked like that day?
Repeated brake application from high speeds or extended sessions of hard throttle/hard brakes/hard throttle.... would heat up the brakes, but I have never seen that happen on public roads. My guess is that it's a combination of hard driving and not yet fully bedded brakes. |
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That is gonna be a shitload of heat in the brakes. Not sure the brakes will be able to take that kind of abuse. The car is heavy and generally speaking 170km/h-0 braking 2x within 3 minutes is gonna trash any brakes. Dont forget this is a 1900+kg car.
I bet my M3 Brembo GT kit would have problems with all that heat. |
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If you say yes then thats fine, I just wanna ask. The E63 is no lightweight either so I just want to compare similar events and forget about the weight. |
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I drove the the E60/E63 M5/M6 at BMW M School and on speeds up to 120 km/h the braking was ok. I have heard problems through on high speed braking at VIR at the Advanced M School since that course reach speeds similar to what you were driving in. Braking is all about heat managment. Lots of guys in their M3 change the brake fluid and add SST lines and get immediate better feel and heat performance. Not saying this is what you should do. It'll be interesting once the car gets to the US, the larger market will ferret out all the cars weak points. No car is perfect and as a day-day car the M5 is prob perfect but getting out of the comfort zone will certainly bring out the cars weak points. That said, paying over $100k USD for a car and getting shit brakes is not acceptable. We'll see if other begin to have issues during spirited driving. Lets keep this topic alive. Any other owners have poor brake performance/fade feedback? |
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