SSP Clutch vs Dodson Clutch

[SSPKris]

Thank you for your business. I am glad everything is working to your expectations.

SSP

[Drm5]

So are u saying that there is no hope of improvement ( dodson clutch clunkyness and spitimg out the gear ) with slight wearing of the clutch..... noooooo... pls tell me 'caise I am not gone tolerate this any longer....

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by Drm5

So are u saying that there is no hope of improvement ( dodson clutch clunkyness and spitimg out the gear ) with slight wearing of the clutch..... noooooo... pls tell me 'caise I am not gone tolerate this any longer....

Doesn't appear it be. It's a flaw in Dodson's design, apparently.

Best bet would be to ditch the Dodson kit and get a kit from SSP.

[MSIXCARBON]

Originally Posted by Dracon

Doesn't appear it be. It's a flaw in Dodson's design, apparently.

Best bet would be to ditch the Dodson kit and get a kit from SSP.

Having seen both in person what I can see is that Dodson requires you to measure the stack height play. SSP has predetermined stack height so their is no room for human error there. Also, the clutch material is different. One last thing which I think is the most important is that on the SSP the thickest outer top and bottom disc are metal on one side and disc material on the other just like factory. It's not like this on the Dodson. When the time comes I'll be ordering SSP!

[SSPKris]

SSP clutches run and drive like stock. There are several vendors here in the states that push the Dodxox clutch assemblies.
This is what they tell there customers after a Dodxox cluth install...
"Your car will adapt itself"
"Clunking is normal shifting between gears"
"Just drive your car for awhile the clutch will smooth out"
"After 20+ attempts the relearn continuously fails"

Does any of this sound correct....

[SSPKris]

The truth is guys an aftermarket clutch needs to adapt on the very first attempt. If it doesnt there is something wrong. Dont drive your car after a new clutch install if the adaptation procedure fails. You will end up wrecking the clutch within a hundred miles or less..FYI

[momos750]

SSPKris are you guys going to offer different stage trans upgrade kits?
All I see on your site is 2 different clutch and basket kits, along with improved filter, and fluid.
The upgraded cooling kit looks like a very nice upgrade!!
Would be nice to see upgrades from mild to wild!!

[RPiM5]

I have over 6,000 miles on the SSP Clutch including the cooling upgrade kit. It is legit. Smoothest shifts and it felt like the transmission was brand new. No complications whatsoever. I'm not trying to bad mouth a product but don't get the Dodson, it is clearly inferior.

[MSIXCARBON]

Originally Posted by SSPKris

The truth is guys an aftermarket clutch needs to adapt on the very first attempt. If it doesnt there is something wrong. Dont drive your car after a new clutch install if the adaptation procedure fails. You will end up wrecking the clutch within a hundred miles or less..FYI

I haven't read the relearn procedure yet but how do you know if adaption procedure is successful or unsuccessful?

[SSPKris]

Originally Posted by MSIXCARBON

I haven't read the relearn procedure yet but how do you know if adaption procedure is successful or unsuccessful?

Whomever you have install your clutch can privide this information. Most business owners would let you sit in during this process if you asked.
The adaptation procedure is the most important step when installing a clutch in the BMW. This procedure is done with the BMW scan tool. There are also aftermarket scanners that will do this procedure. There are certain steps during the adaptation procedure that must be followed in order. SSP supplies the correct instructions with every new clutch.

[evilb]

What is everyone seeing as far as installation costs of the SSP parts?

[SSPKris]

Originally Posted by evilb

What is everyone seeing as far as installation costs of the SSP parts?

If you send your clutch to us, the installation is free. Every dealer will charge a little differently based in there hourly shop rates.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by SSPKris

We have a complete new line of transmission products coming out for the GTR this winter....

SSP

lol not that I'd deviate from what John Shep recommends I'm sure you're well aware of his contributions to the GTR community and records lol I would certainly do it to be a guinea pig for free parts lol

But I'll be anxious to see the results competition is really good, and even though some companies practices in the GTR world of copying parts are in a moral gray zone, god knows where we'd be on price of parts without great competition.

[panhe]

which aftermarket scanners can do the clutch relearn?

[SSPKris]

Originally Posted by MSIXCARBON

I haven't read the relearn procedure yet but how do you know if adaption procedure is successful or unsuccessful?

The scan tool will tell you if the adaptation was completed or not.

SSP

[SSPKris]

2007-2016 BMW DCT Clutch Relearn Procedure

Clutch install complete/ fluid filled to capacity
1) Transmission will need to be brought up to 80C temperature before any relearning can start.
-Raise car on a hoist, and run thru each gear for at least 10 seconds (reverse also). This procedure will make sure that the work has been done correctly, while bleeding all the air from the valve body assembly.
2) Touch point learning procedure
-E brake up (locked position)
-Car in Neutral
-Brake pedal needs to be held thru the entire procedure.
-The RPM will “drop down” as the procedure progresses
-After procedure is finished, make sure the car is in “Neutral” position, shut the ignition off.
-“Procedure is successful”

3) Gear Learn Procedure
-E brake up (locked position)
-Car in Neutral
-Brake pedal needs to be held thru the entire procedure.
-3 different levels of shifting will occur with this procedure
-After procedure is finished, make sure the car is in “Neutral” position, shut the ignition off.
-“Procedure is successful”

4) Torque Curve Reset

-E brake up (locked position)
-Car in Neutral
-Hold Brake Pedal Down
-Ignition on, but engine off during this procedure
-After procedure is finished, make sure the car is in “Neutral” position, shut the ignition off.
-“Procedure is successful”

5) Valve body Relearn Procedure

--E brake up (locked position)
-Car in Neutral
-Engine running HOLD ACCELERATOR AT 2000 RPM WHILE HOLDING THE BRAKE PEDAL
-DO THIS PROCEDURE FOR 2 MINUTES
-After procedure is finished, make sure the car is in “Neutral” position, shut the ignition off.
-“Procedure is successful”

PV1/PV2 RELEARN SUCCESSFUL

The NEW clutch will need to properly be broken in for 500km of normal driving conditions. Absolutely DO NOT break the clutch in on a wheel dyno. Premature wear or clutch burning will occur. There is not warranty for this. Do not do any wide open throttle pulls. The clutch needs to be shifting frequently for proper break in of the clutch plates.

After the 500km break in:
For best clutch performance and longevity, do the following procedures:
-On “M” Series cars make sure the clutch clamping force is turned all the way up, and traction control is OFF. This will allow you go gain 6 complete bars of pressure for proper clutch break in. On Non “M” Series cars make sure the car is in SPORT MODE for proper clutch break in.
-Relearn the clutch touch points
-Relearn the gear box at this time.

[BoostNinja]

Originally Posted by SSPKris

SSP clutches run and drive like stock. There are several vendors here in the states that push the Dodxox clutch assemblies.
This is what they tell there customers after a Dodxox cluth install...
"Your car will adapt itself"
"Clunking is normal shifting between gears"
"Just drive your car for awhile the clutch will smooth out"
"After 20+ attempts the relearn continuously fails"

Does any of this sound correct....

Damn have you been spying on me. I mean shit, I've been trying to get these clutches learned in for 6 months.

[SSPKris]

Originally Posted by BoostNinja

Damn have you been spying on me. I mean shit, I've been trying to get these clutches learned in for 6 months.

Does you car shift hard, clang and bang in to gear?

[BoostNinja]

Originally Posted by SSPKris

Does you car shift hard, clang and bang in to gear?

I haven't driven it much because it never learned in properly. Pretty much given up on it working properly.

[SSPKris]

Originally Posted by BoostNinja

I haven't driven it much because it never learned in properly. Pretty much given up on it working properly.

Let me know if you need help getting your car to drive normally. This is what we do...

Kris

[GMWNashville]

Originally Posted by BoostNinja

I haven't driven it much because it never learned in properly. Pretty much given up on it working properly.

Take it out and put the Ssp in...you won't look back!

[steeve13m]

My Dodson "Superstock" runs fine except after multiple hard runs it slips on map8/meth (700whp+)....will switch to SSP after change to stage 2 turbos+tune

but which of the SSP options are best SSP Spec R?