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      04-28-2014, 04:15 PM   #1
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NoVa Police Encounter and Speeding

As many of you know Virginia is a little strict with its traffic laws. Pulled over today for nearly reckless in Arlington. I thought I was going 30mph but was apparently just shy of 50. I mentioned to the officer that I had no absolutely idea that I was going that fast (No HUD). The extremely cool officer tells me he drives an M3 and understands. He went back to his car and after some time came back with just two warnings for speed and tint. I was beyond shocked! Love M drivers!

My default next car is a F10 M5 CP which I understand is more "refined" than the E60 so how on earth do you guys not end up in jail!? Do you lose a sense of occasion with the more refinement?

And if anyone knows an Arlington County Officer who drives an M3 and may be on the boards, I would like to thank him yet again.
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As many of you know Virginia is a little strict with its traffic laws. Pulled over today for nearly wreckless in Arlington. I thought I was going 30mph but was apparently just shy of 50. I mentioned to the officer that I had no absolutely idea that I was going that fast (No HUD). The extremely cool officer tells me he drives an M3 and understands. He went back to his car and after some time came back with just two warnings for speed and tint. I was beyond shocked! Love M drivers!

My default next car is a F10 M5 CP which I understand is more "refined" than the E60 so how on earth do you guys not end up in jail!? Do you lose a sense of occasion with the more refinement?

And if anyone knows an Arlington County Officer who drives an M3 and may be on the boards, I would like to thank him yet again.
I make it a point to use cruise control and stay under in VA... lol I don't play there.
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      04-28-2014, 04:40 PM   #3
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Had a similar experience in MD on Clara Barton - doing like 75 - limit 45. He could have given me reckless, instead he gave me a warning with a wink - "must be hard keeping that thing at the speed limit". Whew!
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      04-28-2014, 05:44 PM   #4
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      04-28-2014, 06:03 PM   #5
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The hud displays current speed and speed limit of the road you are on by gps data and the front camera capturing speed limit signs. It is easy not to speed with this display, but with so much power it is quite easy to find yourself speeding. Setting the speed limit warning display is very useful. I set it at 85 first, but had to up it to 100
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Connected Drive displays on HUD what speed limit is. It is literally my saving grace. But regardless, M5s shrugs off speed more than teenagers shrug at your questions. JK...But seriously, glance at the speedo because you are usually going twice as fast as you thought you were
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I drove from NY to Charlottesville two weeks ago in my M5 without incident. The Waze app on my iPhone picked up just about every speed trap along the way.
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At 85 mph, you are only pulling around 2000 rpm in 7th gear, so you have no clue how fast you are going without some visual input. Got ticketed in NYC for allegedly doing over 80 in a 50 -- did not sense I was going so fast as I was concentrating on avoiding potholes, but 8 points if convicted, with a mandatory court appearance. Nonetheless, amazing cars.
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I make it a point to use cruise control and stay under in VA... lol I don't play there.

I have had very bad run in's with the law in VA. I have a personal grudge against them. I do not speed in NoVa anymore at all I set the limiter and don't show them ST any love or respect.......
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I have had very bad run in's with the law in VA. I have a personal grudge against them. I do not speed in NoVa anymore at all I set the limiter and don't show them ST any love or respect.......
I'm with you Q.
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Had a similar experience in MD on Clara Barton - doing like 75 - limit 45. He could have given me reckless, instead he gave me a warning with a wink - "must be hard keeping that thing at the speed limit". Whew!
lol have to just wait for the straights on that road

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At 85 mph, you are only pulling around 2000 rpm in 7th gear, so you have no clue how fast you are going without some visual input. Got ticketed in NYC for allegedly doing over 80 in a 50 -- did not sense I was going so fast as I was concentrating on avoiding potholes, but 8 points if convicted, with a mandatory court appearance. Nonetheless, amazing cars.
I agree... When you start looking through the hud its like it isn't there lol.

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      04-29-2014, 12:05 AM   #12
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Received a 60 in a 40 last night… Didn't even realize I was going that fast, and wasn't paying attention to the HUD, just trying to get home and I was the only car on the road. What really pisses me off is that my Escort 9500Ci didn't even chirp once. Apparently he got me with his In car mounted radar… but Im really disappointed my protection failed me a second time.
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Received a 60 in a 40 last night… Didn't even realize I was going that fast, and wasn't paying attention to the HUD, just trying to get home and I was the only car on the road. What really pisses me off is that my Escort 9500Ci didn't even chirp once. Apparently he got me with his In car mounted radar… but Im really disappointed my protection failed me a second time.
You sure he didn't hit you with laser?
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He told me he couldn't show me the reading because the device is mounted in his car… The escort has in the past alerted me to laser alerts and goes "laser shifting" and thats when I slow down and turn the system off temporarily. When passing through indiana on a road trip, I was hit with a laser and my passport said "laser shifting" and i thought I was in the clear but then he was right behind me. On the ticket it said he used a Lidar but at the time I didn't even bother to ask to see the reading on the gun. He could have been lying because he cited me for exactly 20 over when I was probably doing more.

I was pissed that my couple thousand dollar protection system failed me.

this time it didn't even alert me or tell me of KA bands or laser which is really frustrating and I am 100% positive it was on and nothing was blocking the receptors.


When I go to court I will ask what system was used to read my speed.
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He told me he couldn't show me the reading because the device is mounted in his car… The escort has in the past alerted me to laser alerts and goes "laser shifting" and thats when I slow down and turn the system off temporarily. When passing through indiana on a road trip, I was hit with a laser and my passport said "laser shifting" and i thought I was in the clear but then he was right behind me. On the ticket it said he used a Lidar but at the time I didn't even bother to ask to see the reading on the gun. He could have been lying because he cited me for exactly 20 over when I was probably doing more.

I was pissed that my couple thousand dollar protection system failed me.

this time it didn't even alert me or tell me of KA bands or laser which is really frustrating and I am 100% positive it was on and nothing was blocking the receptors.


When I go to court I will ask what system was used to read my speed.
As LIDAR becomes more common and background radar "noise" becomes more prevalent, radar detectors are going to be less useful, and social networking/cooperative police-trap reporting (Waze, Trapster, etc.) is going to be the best way to avoid speeding tickets in the future.
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      04-29-2014, 12:42 PM   #16
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He told me he couldn't show me the reading because the device is mounted in his car… The escort has in the past alerted me to laser alerts and goes "laser shifting" and thats when I slow down and turn the system off temporarily. When passing through indiana on a road trip, I was hit with a laser and my passport said "laser shifting" and i thought I was in the clear but then he was right behind me. On the ticket it said he used a Lidar but at the time I didn't even bother to ask to see the reading on the gun. He could have been lying because he cited me for exactly 20 over when I was probably doing more.

I was pissed that my couple thousand dollar protection system failed me.

this time it didn't even alert me or tell me of KA bands or laser which is really frustrating and I am 100% positive it was on and nothing was blocking the receptors.


When I go to court I will ask what system was used to read my speed.
I'm going to bet he hit you with LIDAR, and if he's good at shooting the Escort might have never known... My laser jammers are always going off before my "shifting" gimmick starts to go... Stealth can explain Jamming and the shifting feature most of these radar companies say they have are not the same.

I personally was shocked at all the signals I'd been missing from police when I was just rolling around with laser jammers so if he shot you good nothing that radar detector would have done. Now if you were like running 9500ci and Quad interceptors and he got you then somethings going on hahaha.
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He told me he couldn't show me the reading because the device is mounted in his car… The escort has in the past alerted me to laser alerts and goes "laser shifting" and thats when I slow down and turn the system off temporarily. When passing through indiana on a road trip, I was hit with a laser and my passport said "laser shifting" and i thought I was in the clear but then he was right behind me. On the ticket it said he used a Lidar but at the time I didn't even bother to ask to see the reading on the gun. He could have been lying because he cited me for exactly 20 over when I was probably doing more.

I was pissed that my couple thousand dollar protection system failed me.

this time it didn't even alert me or tell me of KA bands or laser which is really frustrating and I am 100% positive it was on and nothing was blocking the receptors.


When I go to court I will ask what system was used to read my speed.
He could have "paced" you from behind, or just timed you for a distance and your would never get any alert because he was not "running" anything. Sometimes you get NO alert because there was NOTHING to alert.
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Yeah the OP never mentioned if he ever saw the cop ahead of him before he was pulled over. My guess is that he was paced from a distance.
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Received a 60 in a 40 last night… Didn't even realize I was going that fast, and wasn't paying attention to the HUD, just trying to get home and I was the only car on the road. What really pisses me off is that my Escort 9500Ci didn't even chirp once. Apparently he got me with his In car mounted radar… but Im really disappointed my protection failed me a second time.
He probably hit you with radar specifically Ka band 34.7GHz. Most radar detectors have a weakness that they will not alert to very short duration signals. The 34.7 GHz frequency is used by Stalker (brand) radar. They have a specifically designed remote that is able to tigger a very short (less than 0.5 second) shot of radar.

There are three radar detectors that are able to detect these very short radar shots: Beltronics STiR+, Escort Redline and Valentine One. All of these detectors will not alert to the short signals out of the box, they must be set up with the proper user settings to detect them. For the STiR+ and Redline: RDR must be turned off, and you should turn off Ka segment 1. For the Valentine One, you should purchase the V1Connection for Android pair it with an Android phone, get the free app Yav1 from google play, turn off Ka Guard, and run scans that eliminate alerts below 33.7Ghz.

As far as LIDAR, the a Escort shifters do a very poor job. The best laser jammers are the AntiLaser Priority.
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He told me he couldn't show me the reading because the device is mounted in his car… The escort has in the past alerted me to laser alerts and goes "laser shifting" and thats when I slow down and turn the system off temporarily. When passing through indiana on a road trip, I was hit with a laser and my passport said "laser shifting" and i thought I was in the clear but then he was right behind me. On the ticket it said he used a Lidar but at the time I didn't even bother to ask to see the reading on the gun. He could have been lying because he cited me for exactly 20 over when I was probably doing more.

I was pissed that my couple thousand dollar protection system failed me.

this time it didn't even alert me or tell me of KA bands or laser which is really frustrating and I am 100% positive it was on and nothing was blocking the receptors.


When I go to court I will ask what system was used to read my speed.

The ticket should list the device/method he used for your speed.
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I got paced in VA 72 in a 35 (going through the toll booth on the Dulles toll road into DC) Radar detector never made a sound. He was beside me in the HOV lanes on the other side of the barrier and I never saw him $500 fine and couldn't drive in VA for a few months. The judge was pissed because he couldn't give me any points or take my license because my I had just moved there and still had another state license and the state didn't have a points system
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I got paced in VA 72 in a 35 (going through the toll booth on the Dulles toll road into DC) Radar detector never made a sound. He was beside me in the HOV lanes on the other side of the barrier and I never saw him $500 fine and couldn't drive in VA for a few months. The judge was pissed because he couldn't give me any points or take my license because my I had just moved there and still had another state license and the state didn't have a points system
I went through the toll booth on the Dulles to fast and it did not get my Easy Pass, thust having my picture taken but I never got a bill in the mail or had the toll taken from my account....probably helped that I had Temp tags on........
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