10-11-2014, 12:34 PM | #1 |
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How many M5's sold in US / year?
How exclusive is the M5 club in US? Trying to figure out how many are sold in US / year and is there a heavy concentration in 1 area over another. Thoughts?
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10-11-2014, 12:50 PM | #2 |
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My guess would be anywhere from 2000-3000 a year. Maybe more, all I know is if bmw had kept the residual in the 48-52 percent range this car would be extremely exclusive. Instead they flooded the market.
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As far as Im concerned residual is just really an estimated value not the corrected market value. If bmw drives up the residual that makes the car more financially affordable for more people. ( More money for bmw) Most people are leasing these cars not buying. And thats exactly what bmw did. They put the residual at 48% pretty much making people buy them. At this time the car was extremely exclusive. If bmw had kept it at this rate and limited supply, would it not be extremely exclusive? Im pretty sure it would and therfor these cars would hold there value much much better.
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In Canada the residuals are in the 42-50% range, thus our 36mo leases are 2000-2550 (depending on mileage and equip) a month not the unbelievable deals State side.
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But given BMW's low low money factors and the ability to apply MSDs to reduce the money factor even further on an already discounted promotional rate (MB only allows MSDs on standard money factors and not on discounted/promotional money factors) and given BMW's high residual values on the M5, it is considerably cheaper to lease an M5 than an E63. However, for purchase, the E63 S is the cheaper car. And even without ED, dealers will sell them for as low as $1,500 under invoice (about $8,500 under sticker) minus manufacture to dealer cash or fleet incentives ($3000-$3500) for a total discount of about $12,000 on a US delivery car (ED discounts for the car are considerably less than BMW -- 5% off US MSRP and no destination charge -- best deal I could get on ED for an E63 S from about 20 dealers I contacted was about 7.5% off US MSRP so no financial incentive to do it unlike BMW ED). MB really discourages leasing on its AMG cars and pushes people to buy. BMW seems to really incentivize leasing the F10 M5. I just went through the F10 M5 vs E63 S buying decision process so this information is pretty fresh in my head. |
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Good information. Thanks. Leasing is probably the way to go on this (but I know I will end up buying). I haven't done the math on this, but I am guessing that if you decided to lease it and then at the end of 3 years, decided to buy the same car, the penalty would be pretty stiff? Pretty sure math would be ridiculously not in favor, but anyone done that math / thought about that?
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