BMW M5 F10 PP-Performance 700hp Tuned by PP-Performance Baku / Azerbaijan

[singularity]

The easiest and credible way of showing if PP Performance tuning makes ANY difference is by posting a video of 2 cars, stock vs tuned from a roll. Up until now I haven't seen any video of PP Performance M5 being faster than a stock car, hell I could even dig out a video where a tuned one is slower than stock.

Btw I'm guessing that that "One of 1 Performance" is a custom job door sill?

[B-1Pilot]

Originally Posted by singularity

Btw I'm guessing that that "One of 1 Performance" is a custom job door sill?

It is as authentic as the PP-Performance tune.

Seriously, what is wrong with Europe or North America Why cant they tune this M5 like the Middle East or the Caucasus?

[singularity]

Originally Posted by B-1 Pilot

It is as authentic as the PP-Performance tune.

Seriously, what is wrong with Europe or North America Why cant they tune this M5 like the Middle East of the Caucasus?

Seems like "authentic" door sills are from here and the car is from here. To this is just another PP Performance commercial post in disguise Caucasus is far from Middle East, more like Soviets so must be PP Performance that Middle Eastern flavor to false or exaggerated tune claims.

Afaik there is yet to be any proven tune with gains to M5 F10 and removal of the speed limiter? Other than Gustav driving the MHR M6 on airfield rolls

[B-1Pilot]

Yeah I meant or, not of... I'm intimately familiar with the location of both

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by B-1 Pilot

Yeah I meant or, not of... I'm intimately familiar with the location of both

Seeing your user name I'm sure you are...

We stayed at Ellsworth AFB during one of our visits to the US. You ever been stationed there? Have a relative that was a tanker pilot who was stationed there.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by singularity

Seems like "authentic" door sills are from here and the car is from here. To this is just another PP Performance commercial post in disguise Caucasus is far from Middle East, more like Soviets so must be PP Performance that Middle Eastern flavor to false or exaggerated tune claims.

Afaik there is yet to be any proven tune with gains to M5 F10 and removal of the speed limiter? Other than Gustav driving the MHR M6 on airfield rolls

The links was to ebay user feedback and someone working at the parliament in Azerbaijan's FB profile?

BTW, it wasn't Gustav driving, it was Franz Simon who then worked for MHR. The MHR Stage IV certainly worked

To be fair to PP, we haven't seen them posting false or exxagerated claims. Unfortunately for them, they have a customer/fanboy that posted some rather silly claims... PP have many proven tunes and is based in Germany with a UAE division as well.

[B-1Pilot]

Originally Posted by Boss330

Seeing your user name I'm sure you are...

We stayed at Ellsworth AFB during one of our visits to the US. You ever been stationed there? Have a relative that was a tanker pilot who was stationed there.

Yep, I was there for four years... But after the tankers had been reassigned elsewhere.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by B-1 Pilot

Yep, I was there for four years... But after the tankers had been reassigned elsewhere.

Cool.

He was transferred to Marquette, MI after Ellsworth.

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Aynar100

Its not possible man

What are you saying is not possible?

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Boss330

I believe it's very hard to improve the 1/4-mile times on a M5 without using drag radials etc. Even in stock form the car has serious traction issues.

You would only see the difference in a GTBoard type shootout with a rolling start from 50km/h to topspeed. That's where you could see the difference between the Manhart M6 vs stock, when they tested that one back in May.

In a standings start situation, you won't have any useable gains in ET, as traction is limited.

I disagree. You can lower ET with more usable power, however I agree that improving the 60' or 0-60mph time is very difficult without additional traction such as using drag radials as you suggests. It may be very difficult to lower the 1/8 mile ET but give me another 150 HP and I'll drop my M5 1/4 mile ET .5 seconds. Using the stock Micheline PSS tires.

In short, you give me an M5 and a tune with 700ish HP and I'll run a very low 11 sec ET with the stock tires.

Btw. For kicks I put a set of DRs on my stock 20" rims with no tune and stock air filters and promptly ran an 11:53 at 122.7. I think while the 305/35 MT ETII DRs helped my 60' (1.750), because they are 1" greater diameter they actually hurt overall gear ratio. Not to mention the computer was not happy with the difference in speed between the stock front tires and the taller DRs. Seemed to accelerate fine but normal driving had the DCT a bit confused.

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I disagree. You can lower ET with more usable power, however I agree that improving the 60' or 0-60mph time is very difficult without additional traction such as using drag radials as you suggests. It may be very difficult to lower the 1/8 mile ET but give me another 150 HP and I'll drop my M5 1/4 mile ET .5 seconds. Using the stock Micheline PSS tires.

In short, you give me an M5 and a tune with 700ish HP and I'll run a very low 11 sec ET with the stock tires.

Btw. For kicks I put a set of DRs on my stock 20" rims with no tune and stock air filters and promptly ran an 11:53 at 122.7. I think while the 305/35 MT ETII DRs helped my 60' (1.750), because they are 1" greater diameter they actually hurt overall gear ratio. Not to mention the computer was not happy with the difference in speed between the stock front tires and the taller DRs. Seemed to accelerate fine but normal driving had the DCT a bit confused.

You are most likely correct. I agree with all of the above.

[GhanemMBN]

Worlds fastest M5





PP-Performance Stage VIP !

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=3&theater

1/4 mile in 11.505 , but the best it achieved is 11.40

0-100km in 3.6 seconds


World Record

[Soorena]

These GPS data logging devices don't quite work for 1/4 mile. The results are always off.

[akh23456]

Originally Posted by Soorena

These GPS data logging devices don't quite work for 1/4 mile. The results are always off.

So true... need to see 1/4 times from a drag strip.

[Tom C]

Originally Posted by Soorena

These GPS data logging devices don't quite work for 1/4 mile. The results are always off.

You have to understand how the timing lights at the the drag strip work in order to understand why there are differences.

I have used my pbox dozens of times at the drag strip. The drag strip uses timing lights. The staging timing light doesn't start the timer until the front wheel completely passes through the beam. That is what people term as "the roll-out". Based on how I stage (and likely because my wheels on all the cars I have dragged lately are 19-20"), it takes about 1.3' to 1.5' of roll-out before the timing starts at the track. If you back out the roll-out time, the elapsed times match up pretty precisely.

Similarly, the trap speeds at the track are calculated based on the average speed it takes to cover the last 66' of the 1/4 mile run (as the drag strip uses timing lights 66' from the 1/4 mile end). Obviously, the GPS based dataloggers are using your "actual" speed at the 1,320' mark. Unless there is something unusual happening in that final 66' (ex. missed shift), the GPS trap speed should always be higher than the mathematical average. I have found on various cars a 1.3 to 2.5 mph difference (Higher) GPS trap speed over the timeslip on the same runs.

Most of the car magazines out there are using some form of GPS datalogger. I hate when people compare a drag strip time slip to a car magazine acceleration time (and vice-versa) without any understanding of how the data is collected. Most US magazines use a 1 foot roll out to simulate the 60' time and weather correct the data to some sort of "ideal" condition.

But getting back to your statement that these datalogging devices "don't quite work for 1/4 mile"... they do work if you know how to adjust for the differences in how they collect data.

[Aynar100]

Originally Posted by GhanemMBN

Worlds fastest M5

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PP-Performance Stage VIP !

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=3&theater

1/4 mile in 11.505 , but the best it achieved is 11.40

0-100km in 3.6 seconds


World Record

Salam alekum my friend..
soon i will do new world record just wait

[GhanemMBN]

Originally Posted by Aynar100

Salam alekum my friend..
soon i will do new world record just wait

I wish you all the best, as long as its PP-Performance then we're happy