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      04-01-2015, 11:23 PM   #1
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UnderCover Performance Mustang Dyno Tunning 2013 M5 @3800 miles

Here it is Fellas Baseline Stock
2013 Bmw M5 non-cp
560 hp = 448WHP
502 trq= 401 trq



AFter
630hp = 544whp
640trq= 553trq
Correct me if I'm wrong about these calculation i did it through

http://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php





Dyno Tunned the Car at UC in Maple Shade NJ

what has been done to the car so Far

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Custom Tune By UC my man Garth did his thing and tweak a few things to it.

I do Understand that Mustang reads a little bit Lower Numbers but our main goal was to make power over stock JB and tweak it.

in a couple of Weeks ill do a Dyno Reading with a DynoJet





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      04-01-2015, 11:26 PM   #2
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Here is the Chart

Pretty Happy with the Simple Mods i have done in 1month
I think this is it for me for now got to maximize the tune and just Enjoy the car now.
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Here is the Results on Video


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is that all all that is supposed to bring? 20 hp?
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is that all all that is supposed to bring? 20 hp?

possibly, From what i have seen the WHP we can ONLY push the car to 500-550whp but look at the Trq gained +50trq..to me that an Amazing gains.even if i gained 5whp ..i'll be happy about it trq gains that to me is the Most important asset of the tune, Our Target was to Maximize capability of the Tune via Dyno Tunning and not just slapping a JB and calling it a day. Even if we put this car in the low reading Dyno as long as we made gains from our baseline even if its 1hp gained we would still be happy with it.

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"edit" box in my 1st few comments comparing Mustangs Dyno vs DynoJet Readings


Can't wait to do a Dyno Jet Reading to Compare the Numbers from a Mustang vs Dynojet

but this i seen on Youtube on Dyno Jets
2013 BMW F10 M5 - AMS Catless Downpipes, BMS JB4, Meisterschaft Exhaust Dyno
617whp & 556trq



2014 F10 M5 - AMS Downpipes, JB4, Mesitershaft Exhaust Dyno
616whp & 544trq




Full RPI system on Dyno Jet
554whp & 515trq
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846339

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Nice numbers especially on a mustang Mike. 20hp and 50tq was over the original JB settings right?
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Nice numbers especially on a mustang Mike. 20hp and 50tq was over the original JB settings right?
Dennis yes after tweaking JB Settings
Now i need DynoJet Numbers to see the difference
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possibly, From what i have seen the WHP we can ONLY push the car to 500-550whp but look at the Trq gained +50trq..to me that an Amazing gains.even if i gained 5whp ..i'll be happy about it trq gains that to me is the Most important asset of the tune, Our Target was to Maximize capability of the Tune via Dyno Tunning and not just slapping a JB and calling it a day. Even if we put this car in the low reading Dyno as long as we made gains from our baseline even if its 1hp gained we would still be happy with it.
but why would you be satisfied with 22 hp when there are tunes out there bringing 700 hp arent they?

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but why would you be satisfied with 22 hp when there are tunes out there bringing 700 hp arent they?
i think you're talking about crank.

i was doing WHP.lol.




Here is Baseline Stock
2013 Bmw M5 non-cp
560 hp = 448WHP
502 trq= 401 trq



AFter
630hp = 544whp
640trq= 553trq

its a
96whp =120hp
138trq =168trq

over stock reading.


Correct me if I'm wrong about these calculation i did it through
http://www.mk5cortinaestate.co.uk/calculator4.php

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Formula i use is divide by .85 to get crank HP and multiply by .85 to get wheel HP. Assuming a 15% drivetrain loss.

so 560 crank HP= 476 WHP
502 tq=426 WTQ.

Not to mention mustang dynos ready about 10-15% lower than Dynojet just like the mainline dyno i used to tune mine. If i run someone making same amount of HP as me on a dynojet, i am more than likely going to win that race.
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For what it's worth, Dinan measures 618 crank HP on the stock (non CP) S63Tu.
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For what it's worth, Dinan measures 618 crank HP on the stock (non CP) S63Tu.
To be honest Dinan is conservative.
I want that Race Car feeling all throughout the rpm,powerband,gears every type of way has to be aggressive yet tone down when its cruising. Thats the beauty of fine tunning a software that they just gv u

I beg to dyno that numbers. Lol


Well see what dynojet produce

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Don't get me wrong. I wasn't endorsing Dinan (nor dissing them). Just pointing out that Dinan (and others) have reported that the stock engine is much stronger than what BMW advertises.
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To be honest Dinan is conservative.
I want that Race Car feeling all throughout the rpm,powerband,gears every type of way has to be aggressive yet tone down when its cruising. Thats the beauty of fine tunning a software that they just gv u

I beg to dyno that numbers. Lol


Well see what dynojet produce

My 2013 M5 with Dinan Tronics stage 1 made 570 rwhp on Dynojet 2 months ago with Stock Cats

I have Dinan Mufflers as well so that's prob 4 wheel HP
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Here it is Fellas Baseline Stock
2013 Bmw M5 non-cp
560 hp = 448WHP
502 trq= 401 trq

AFter
630hp = 544whp
640trq= 553trq
Correct me if I'm wrong about these calculation i did it through
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Formula i use is divide by .85 to get crank HP and multiply by .85 to get wheel HP. Assuming a 15% drivetrain loss.

so 560 crank HP= 476 WHP
502 tq=426 WTQ.
I believe 15% for todays cars is conservative... I would go with 12%

Also considering underrated S63TU, I expect 600-620 HP and 540-570 TQ at Crank for stock M5/M6 (non CP)
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I believe 15% for todays cars is conservative... I would go with 12%

Also considering underrated S63TU, I expect 600-620 HP and 540-570 TQ at Crank for stock M5/M6 (non CP)
Certainly don't mean to rain on your parade sir, because I am in it -

Heard this before but rumor has it that Lieberman and God knows I don't care for him, but he did dyno live M5 vs E63 AMG and M5 was right at 550HP and 500 tq while AMG was the one that was really underrated! !

Please correct me if I'm wrong !!
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Certainly don't mean to rain on your parade sir, because I am in it -

Heard this before but rumor has it that Lieberman and God knows I don't care for him, but he did dyno live M5 vs E63 AMG and M5 was right at 550HP and 500 tq while AMG was the one that was really underrated! !

Please correct me if I'm wrong !!
Well I have seen different dyno results. IND has a dyno shows 527WHP and 476 WTQ . Dinan reported 618 HP , 576 lb-ft (at crank)... people say Dinan is conservative and might be truth, but then Dinan reported other BMWs with very close numbers to what BMW claims for them...For example Alpina B6, 650i, 640i, 550i, 535i, 435i, 335i,...So I rely on Dinan... maybe because I want to
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yeah ..i wonder how Dinan goes if you tweak their tunes....

on the picture just putting straight JB on m5 will get you
500trq
525whp..

and after, their was much gains there....
hence I love progressive tunning so you see the difference and the potential of the software and the car.
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what about Jay Cuyco's AW M5 Mike? whats the gain…
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what about Jay Cuyco's AW M5 Mike? whats the gain…
Still at UC getting some more fine tunning.
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Still at UC getting some more fine tunning.
you have one freakin Loud M5 Mike...I'm jealous lol
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you have one freakin Loud M5 Mike...I'm jealous lol
hahaha..thanks man....you hear it before you saw me....love the black 3 series u have bro..
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