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The end of era and the advent of a new age?
When the X6M came to market, I could not believe BMW M could build such a thing. Sacrilege! 6 months later I took it around a track and was so impressed I bought one.
I say bring on the AWD M5 and make it something special. I hope it blows the socks of the vaunted GTR AWD drivetrain. BMW should take lessons from Poursche and Ferrari though and not forget the development of its rear driven products. They really need to refine the power delivery to the rea wheels of the line and exiting corners. Better e-difs please! |
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This is interesting. Personally I think BMW will offer all-wheel drive as an option because their competitors offer. But there is an important issue of which has not been said a lot and is the subject of car engine. If we compare the figures of acceleration 550i vs M5 there is a detail: 550i :::::::: 0-60 mph ::: 4.5 seconds. 550ixDrive :: 0-60 mph ::: 4.3 seconds. M5 :::::::::: 0-60 mph ::: 4.3 seconds (Manual) and 4.2(DKG) Drivelogic. I think BMW is crucial needs and working in engineering M5 4.4l engine, acceleration figures in this table are ridiculous for the M5, comparing against his younger brother the 550i. If coldly analyze the acceleration data we can see that the 550i X Drive that features all-wheel drive is faster than 550i RWD and it almost equals the acceleration of M5. What results in better engineering applied to 550i X Drive AWD all-wheel drive. This is a clear advantage over rear wheel drive models. BMW M5 should endeavor because faster in acceleration figures 0-60 mph. I do not understand why BMW does not change to a lighter and more refined as a V8 engine of 4.0 liters of displacement of greater technology than the old 4.4-liter. "BMW has to change the engine to produce more torque is the key to the M5 is faster." I would expect the following figures for this car: New generation 5 Series. I suggest this engine: New V8 4,0 liter: : 450 HP/470 FT ( 550i and 550i XDrive) : 550 HP/530 FT (M5 and M5 X Drive) : 595 HP/560 FT (M5 Competition Package and M5 CP X Drive) 2016 550i : : 0-60 mph : 4.3 seconds. 2016 550i XDrive : 0- 60 mph : 4.2 seconds. 2016 M5 : : :: 0-60 mph. : 3.8 seconds. 2016 M5 X Drive : : : : 0-60 mph : 3.7 seconds. 2016 M5 CP : : : 0-60 mph : 3.7 seconds. 2016 M5 CP X Drive : 0-60 mph : 3.6 seconds. I mention this because I personally interested in my car is fast. For me it is more important to the work of a refined engine as the 550i, the M5 does not currently meet the figures of acceleration of a car should have. The difference between 550i and M5 acceleration of 0.1 seconds is minimal when you consider that there are 110 HP difference between the two models. Last edited by Pure; 01-23-2015 at 04:23 AM.. |
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Why do you say that? I was always under the impression that M5 buyers were no different than M3 buyers ... only with more protruding guts! Last edited by Falafel Combo; 01-23-2015 at 05:04 AM.. |
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It didn't make sense at 500hp and it sure as hell doesn't make sense at 600 either, considering the G30 will be lighter. Come on folks ... they're trying to compete with Audi and AMG ... not Dodge Hellcat! 600hp RWD is nice in theory ... until you have to drive it everyday and the traction control keeps cutting off the throttle. It's annoying. Snow and ice handling is not the only reason to make AWD cars ... it's more about balance, power distribution ... and in this case, market share. They're loosing a lot of ground to Audi and AMG in that regards. Dew it BMW. Deeeeew it! |
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Rwd cars have that so a broken u joint doesn't pole vault the car. I guess they are concerned about the power available and what the axels can handle.
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Call me a hater if you want but I HATE awd "sports cars" I'm taking delivery on an M4 in 4 month and am ree-badging it with an M3 badge.
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My F80 M3 is RWD, with enough torque to rip the rear tires at 2nd -3rd gears. Traction is an issue as the M division adds more power. But I agree, please make it optional or BMW will lose a lot of M fans. AWD = more weight and more parts to break.
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Look forward to more real information on the actual G series before I decide if it's for me. But the reality is you gotta get that power down!
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The M5 does come with a ski bag between the rear seats standard. Just sayin'! Who wouldn't want to drive it up a mountain pass on the way to carve some turns!!
Right now, I wouldn't even consider taking it skiing. I'd never make it home alive!
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As blasphemous as this looks I think it only makes sense. Next gen will be well over 600 hp and that just is useless on 2 wheels. Give it a good rear bias and 9-10 people (the non Bimmerpost ppl) won't even notice.
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