01-31-2014, 03:32 PM | #45 |
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I know the two cars are for different people or markets but i just wanted it to be something different....
I thought this is the way you work yourself up the M leader M3>M5.but i dont know anymore.i still want to drive a BMW.i test drove mercs and audis on the same level but none of them even the M5 felt like the car is driving me |
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01-31-2014, 03:59 PM | #47 | |
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And by no means is it a bad car or anything like that. Frankly its amazing, the brakes should be standard on all cars and are simply stunning, the hud and tech in the 2014s are outstanding and the best bmw has offered to date. I just want the feeling Rpi described back :/ |
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01-31-2014, 04:54 PM | #48 | |
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But your point is well taken - essentially the M5 can be had for little more than a fully loaded 550, so price at these levels shouldn't be the main consideration. I do hope that BMW adds xDrive to the new M5, though, especially as they pass the 600hp mark. I'll probably take a second look at that time. But honestly, I'm not sure I'll be convinced, still, that it's a necessary upgrade. As I said, I'm finding it hard enough to fully use 445HP/479TQ in a large sedan on the streets... 560HP or 600HP? I don't know. I'm thinking if I invest in something with that much power, having it in a dedicated 2-seater may be the way to go. The 5-series will serve as a quick business sedan/DD, and something in the 3rd stall will need to provide twisty road weekend pleasure... and that may be more about a nimble car rather than massive HP... considering an F355 or 360.
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02-01-2014, 02:42 PM | #49 | |
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A. There is not nearly enough traction to handle it B. You get to super looney speeds without even realizing it C. All of a sudden you have 2+ tons of luxury car that you are trying to slow down and get through the next corner Personally I could do without a power trunk, power sunroof shade, soft close doors, etc to drop 400-500 lbs out of this car. Without the weight I think the power might become more useable. Yes the car would be even faster, but also easier to handle when slowing down and turning. I would love to see a light weight version which I know sounds like an oxymoron. What I don't like about the M3 is the size and more specifically the width. It is not great for work situations to have four adults shoulder to shoulder. Just feels awkward. AWD is not a solution either. It ruins the driving feel, adds even more weight and you might as well just buy an RS7 or E63. |
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02-01-2014, 03:31 PM | #50 | |
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02-01-2014, 04:18 PM | #51 |
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Ummm, no, the M3 is more forgiving than the M5. The M5 has way to much torque and not enough traction. Making it easier to light up the rear tires, especially if in MDM mode, and makes the car that much harder to control " around the corners and so on..." M3, has a more linear throttle response, where as the M5.... well is very agressive, and even sometimes way more than what you wanted.
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02-01-2014, 07:05 PM | #52 | |
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I also think there is some serious hyperbole here since I find it hard to believe you can triple and almost quadruple the recommended corner speed at the apex unless you are running slicks on the street. If you are talking about corner exit speed I can see it. |
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02-01-2014, 08:35 PM | #53 |
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Uh..I don't know about these comparisons with a 550. I would have loved a 550xi but I drove that and the 535xi and I thought they drove way too soft and the steering was really numb. I was expecting that in the m5 and it was a world of difference. I mean not even a little similar. It's like a different manufacturer.
That's why I bought the M5. But when they forecast snow I wish I had an xi. |
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02-02-2014, 12:01 AM | #55 | |
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So, does the M5 have too much power? I guess it depends on which personality you ask! But honestly, unless you're going to take the car to a track, IMHO the answer is yes. And if you ARE into tracking cars, is the M5 really your first or best choice? Hence getting back to the oxymoron quoted above.
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02-02-2014, 12:28 PM | #57 | |
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I have videos for days pushing this car to its absolute max. Its not the m3 (nor should it be really) but its insanely well engineered these overreactions are the same kind of things you see RWD cars get in snow threads... "OMG DEAR LORD YOU'D DRIVE WITHOUT AWD!?! Blasphemy!" Not to mention the advice is coming from those who don't really push the car to find its true limits [or near limits] Last edited by M5Rlz; 02-02-2014 at 12:36 PM.. |
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02-03-2014, 09:42 AM | #58 | |
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A video of you recklessly driving on public streets? (I'm assuming that you are talking about public streets because race tracks don't have suggested speeds for corners.) No thanks. You should probably leave those off of the internet.
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02-03-2014, 01:51 PM | #60 |
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With what I pay in retainers... eh lol And pretty sure unless I say this is me driving no proof it was actually me as I could have been in the passenger seat, or not even in the car and just lying
But you can always be sure an internet mommy is ready to pounce Have you ever eaten a burger, checked your phone while driving, ever sped when you were under (I'm assuming 40-60)? No one likes hypocrisy . Anytime you want to invest in a track thats closer than 100 miles each way to my house I'll be the first one there everyday Last edited by M5Rlz; 02-03-2014 at 01:59 PM.. |
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02-03-2014, 06:56 PM | #61 |
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its too much for city driving filled with traffics and motorcycles around.
but for highway destroyer… different story.
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02-06-2014, 04:16 PM | #63 |
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Thank you very much for the discussion gentlemen. I took delivery of my 2014 M5 in October and was concerned that at the tender age of 42 I had gotten too old to handle the performance of this beast. I much prefer to agree with others here that the 295's do not offer enough rubber to transfer all the horses available to the pavement. I certainly felt more confident playing with my E60 M5 and my E92 M3. Something about breaking the back end loose at 85mph+ has giving me an apprehensive respect for my F10 M5.
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