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      08-30-2013, 08:34 PM   #1
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BMW CCA Oktoberfest 2013 - Laguna Seca

Can't believe it has already been almost a week since I was up in Monterey for BMW CCA Oktoberfest. I was hoping to post something a bit earlier, but I didn't wait around for the CD with my images from the three sessions, so I had no pics of the car on track. They came today.

Had an absolute blast. Went up on Friday, and spent the weekend with BarryB and his wife. Spent some time in Carmel and the surrounding areas on Friday, prepped up for the next day at the track and hit the sack early.

What is there to say about Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca that has not been said. It is a fun track, certainly put my abilities to the test. Was placed into the "C" run group. Don't know why, as I have some track experience but it could have been due to the fact that this was my first CCA event. Nevertheless it didn't really hamper my driving. Sure, there were folks that had less experience and there was a bit of traffic that I had to get around...but that was OK. After a driver briefing, some H2O, checking tire pressures and wheel torque it was time to drive.

I was partnered up with a instructor having 20+ years of BMW/Porsche HP driving experience. He was a perfectionist. He held me to a very, very high standard. Perfect match for me, as my type A had me thinking that I had the place wired before I even hit the track. Boy, was I wrong. LS is challenging, but, I believe even more so with a car like the F10 M5. I quickly put the thought of fastest lap out of my mind and got to learning how to really extract the most out of the car as possible. The mass of the car certainly hamper its ability to really handle the corners at speed. It will absolutely fly on the straights but corners require a deft foot. It was very, very easy to get the car to break loose. If you watched the M6 lap around the track, you can see what I mean. To put it bluntly, it is almost like wrestling the car around the track. Here is a contrast for you. At M-school we really were taught to be hard on the throttle, and then hard on the brakes. Same thing at Ascari and COTA. Stark difference with my instructor. The M5 begs to be driven WOT to 10/10 braking, scrubbing speed, and then back to WOT. The time spent on track we worked to go less throttle, and explore the limits of what the car can do in the corners and letting the straights take care of themselves. Like I said...it is easier to do the former, much harder to do the latter. I'm a better driver because of it

All in all, couple take aways. 1. The M5 can still do track duty a few times per year. In general, it is too heavy, has too much power, and too much torque. Want to haul ass from corner to corner? No problem. Want to go around a corner flat and fast with your foot well in it? Good luck with that. 2. Related to #1, I need a lighter, more nimble car for the track. I have been bitten by the bug bad. Deposit going down on a GT3...but I am #1 on the list at a dealer for the M4. At this point with my obligations I am better suited to have a DD that can double with track duty rather than a dedicated car. At least for now. HAHAHA!

Here are a few snaps courtesy of Got Blue Milk and video compiled on RaceRender from Harry's Lap Timer GPS data, camera (hood) and a GoPro (overhead).

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One more item. I got black flagged on the second to last lap of the 3rd session due to noise. That is with my OEM downpipes and quiet Akrapovic exhaust. 95.2 dB at 50'. LOL...so much for quiet enough to run Laguna!
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      08-30-2013, 08:52 PM   #2
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Looks like a blast!
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Awesome!!!

By the way I got around to testing my Straightpipes on my M5 with a decibel reader today. I peaked at 109db. LOL!!!!! I would have been kicked off of the track faster than GTR can do a lap at Laguna Seca!
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It was a total Blast!. I had my M3 so had some light weight as well as some beef.
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flat out at LS straight underneath the bridge in the M5 with the H&R's requires huge leap of faith and is scary! It's a very fun track! Looking forward to Thunderhill with you guys. You can be a little less judicious there but still very technical.
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Great Pics. Looks awesome!
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Got black flagged for sound on both cars. 94db on the M3 and 98 on the E Race....

Josh you are right. You get some serious speed in the F10 going over the blind rise. Actually more fun in the M3 even though you're going slower because you can keep your foot in it longer coming into 2.
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Great stuff guys. Awesome pics. Next year for sure

(Cool to know the e-race puts out 98db)
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Awesome! Wish I were there...
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flat out at LS straight underneath the bridge in the M5 with the H&R's requires huge leap of faith and is scary! It's a very fun track! Looking forward to Thunderhill with you guys. You can be a little less judicious there but still very technical.
Totally agree. Takes some balls to stay in it...especially considering the car gets a bit unsettled after turn 1...
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Barry's M5 is so fast at Laguna Seca it defies gravity!
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I only got 3 laps in the F10 before being black flagged.
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so it was 92 day?? ouch! We used to have to let off and shift early on 5 by the sound booth but got meatballed even on other parts of track. Wonder if they set up another sound booth? I stopped bringing the F430 and even the E93 M3 there. Took the Z4 35is last time since i know it would pass sound and I get to have some fun. Even that got flagged once.







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Got black flagged for sound on both cars. 94db on the M3 and 98 on the E Race....

Josh you are right. You get some serious speed in the F10 going over the blind rise. Actually more fun in the M3 even though you're going slower because you can keep your foot in it longer coming into 2.

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Yep 92 day. There was only one sound check in the usual place up the hill after 5. In the M3 I would just have to upshift early 3-4 right at the sound booth and was ok.
Thunderhill is 102, btw so we all should be good.
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looks like an awesome time!! woot

how did the pss's hold up after the event?
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I wonder why you guys got flagged when the race cars are so much louder. What's the difference? At tx world speedway it is ok.
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Laguna is surrounded by houses and golf courses which have influenced the sound rules, I believe. Races are unlimited but "track days" are either 92 or 102 db. There are much more 92 days than 102.
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looks like an awesome time!! woot

how did the pss's hold up after the event?
PSS's held up great. Ran 37 cold, and have some wear but nothing unexpected. Certainly does not look as bad as it could have been especially if I had been experiencing a ton of understeer and rolling the tires.
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